His post was quite long but just to clarify that the main person doing personal attacks here is the OP, we will state our arguments and attempt to debunk his, just to get called fools or parasites. Which at this point he is just trolling to get a reaction out of most of us, which sure our bad for falling into it.
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No drama here—I just respond in order, unlike you, who dips in mid-thread without a clue what was said three posts ago. If sticking to the actual flow of conversation bothers you, maybe forums aren’t your strong suit.
And as for the ChatGPT jabs? Cute, but projection won’t save you. I’ve written every word myself, in my own style, with a clarity that clearly struck a nerve. If my posts come off more structured and articulate than you’re used to, maybe it’s not the tool—maybe it’s the talent.
But let’s pivot to the meat of your comment. You warned me about RMT like it’s some hidden risk I’ve never considered. Here’s the difference: I run clean GDKPs, post transparent cuts, vet buy-ins, and boot anything sketchy. Meanwhile, the folks foaming at the mouth about GDKP corruption can’t even define what a kick threshold is.
If your biggest gotcha is that someone once got banned for receiving botted gold—guess what? They weren’t running a GDKP. They were lazy buyers who thought whispers from level 1 alts were legit.
I do appreciate the well-wishing, though. GDKPing in MoP will be fun. Hopefully you stick around long enough to see how it’s done without the tinfoil.
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Exactly this. Funny how they only cry “personal attack” when someone pushes back on their narrative. You forgot they’ve tossed around “bots,” “parasites,” and “scammers” like confetti for ten threads straight—but suddenly when a few GDKP supporters respond with facts and firm language, they switch into forum victim mode™.
It’s a double standard, plain and simple. They can insult entire raid formats, impugn every organizer’s integrity, and slap “RMT” on anyone who doesn’t soft-res their boots—and then act shocked when someone claps back. Accountability feels real harsh when it’s not just aimed one way.
Glad someone’s calling it straight.
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Where are the MoP gdkps happening?
Cleaning up old posts! 
If you don’t like gdkp just go back to sod, where leeches go afk, beat your rolls on bis items while doing less dps than healers. Sod is thriving isn’t it? I heard gdkp ban worked so well over there.
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What’s that name mean?
Edit: Thunderpants makes the high schooler in me chuckle. And, well, Crudlord is kinda sad, but whatev. Just curious.
Edit edit: And Morwa is just a really good wow name.
Okay I am off. I’ll check in later, prolly. Seriously, GDKPers, try and have fun in MoP, assuming they allow the GDKP thing.
In MSV,HoF,ToES for P1 then P2 ToT P3 will be SoO.
You call it a “non-issue,” but for a lot of players, GDKP wasn’t just a loot format—it was the most transparent, performance-rewarding system Classic had. It gave raiders without fixed guild schedules a consistent way to earn gold, gear, and keep server economies alive. So yeah, when Blizzard bans it without warning, offers vague justifications, and replaces it with loot systems that don’t fit their playstyle, of course there’s going to be backlash. That’s not drama—that’s disappointment.
What’s even more frustrating is how the justification keeps shifting. First it was about combating RMT… but then RMT was still rampant in Season of Discovery and Anniversary realms, despite GDKP being banned. Then the reason morphs into “social health” and the guild structure argument—as if organized auctions were somehow less social than silent SR pugs.
This isn’t a “sky is falling” moment—it’s a credibility issue. People were told one thing, shown another, and given no real path forward. That’s not overreaction. That’s asking Blizzard to stop swinging the banhammer without owning the results.
If it doesn’t affect you, that’s fine. But dismissing it as a “non-issue” just because it isn’t your issue misses why so many care in the first place.
I work from home most days, and when I’m in the office I’m still at a workstation. Having the forums or game up on a second, third, or even fourth monitor isn’t exactly rocket science—especially when you’re doing work that doesn’t require a full screen 24/7.
Appreciate the olive branch—really. But calling it a “silly GDKP debate” kind of downplays why people care. For some of us, this isn’t just about gold-for-gear. It’s about maintaining systems that reward effort, respect time investment, and give players real agency outside of guild obligations. That’s not extreme—that’s engaged.
We’re not all theorycrafters on commission or crypto-farmers in disguise. Most of us are just regular players who don’t want to see yet another trusted system get swept away under vague reasoning. And if that passion makes someone look “too invested,” then yeah—guilty as charged.
Some folks crack beers over parses. Others do it over loot auctions. It’s all still Classic. Just different tables at the same tavern.
Sure, if real money is involved, it gets trickier—but let’s not pretend that’s unique to GDKPs. RMT touches every corner of the game: from raid consumables to BOE epics to people buying mounts off the AH. Acting like GDKPs invented the issue is just lazy framing.
Do I think every single GDKP is spotless? No. But I also don’t think every raid guild is a clean-cut choir, either. I don’t participate in RMT, I run clean groups, and I vet who I work with. That’s all anyone can do. Blaming the entire GDKP ecosystem for the actions of a few is no different than saying anyone who rides a motorcycle must be in a gang or anyone who logs into WoW is a “basement dweller.” It’s shallow stereotyping.
If Blizzard’s goal was really to stop RMT, they had other, more targeted options. Instead, they chose to ban the format, not the behavior—and that’s where a lot of us take issue. Because removing GDKPs didn’t stop gold buying. It just shoved it into whispers and Discord DMs where no one sees it.
So no—it’s not a tempest in a teapot. It’s frustration at a policy that punishes transparency while doing nothing to solve the actual problem.
My name was originally Enhmypants, but Ripsod went on a rampage with his friends and reported it. So I changed it to Thunderpants to stick with the theme.
They haven’t announced any ban on GDKPs in MoP Classic—and I doubt they will. Blizzard’s clearly trying to make this version succeed, and a full ban on a popular loot format wouldn’t exactly help with that.
Just look at what they’ve done so far: class changes, scrapping Season of Discovery, handing out a free 85 boost—all signs they want MoP to land better than it did the first time. They’re streamlining onboarding and trying to generate momentum.
If they were to suddenly axe GDKPs with no warning, they’d be repeating the same mistake they made in Classic Fresh and SoD—ripping out a system without considering the fallout. A lot of players left those servers because Blizzard removed systems they relied on and gave nothing meaningful in return.
Honestly, I want everyone to have fun in the game—that’s the point, right? But banning a single loot system outright does ruin the experience for a portion of the community who genuinely enjoy and rely on it. No loot system is perfect. Each has its flaws, its upsides, its niche. In the end, the best system isn’t the one someone else likes—it’s the one that fits your group, your goals, and the way you like to play.
Cleaning up old posts!
“Lf afk buyers” is the #1 advertisement for gdkps 
Sod was a successful season, and the ban was a success as blizzard has said
How did SoM go that allowed gdkps?
isn’t the #1 ad for GDKPs—that’s just a tired meme parroted by people who’ve never actually organized one. Real GDKPs don’t want dead weight. They want fresh 85s who can follow directions, contribute, and not wipe the raid. No organizer is risking a failed run and their credibility for someone who’s sitting AFK at the entrance with a fat wallet.
Yeah, buyers are welcome—but they’re expected to show up and perform, not coast on autofollow. There’s a big difference between bringing a fresh toon and bringing a body bag. And serious GDKPs know that.
If you’ve got a screenshot of an actual AFK-buyers-only raid that wasn’t immediately flamed and blacklisted? By all means, share it. Otherwise, maybe stop mistaking troll trade chat memes for reality.
Let’s talk facts—not emojis.
Season of Discovery didn’t see less RMT or botting because GDKPs were banned. In fact, it saw more—with fewer players overall. That’s the part people like to ignore.
- SoD had no GDKPs, yet botting exploded. AH prices were inflated faster than original Classic, and gold-buying spam was everywhere within weeks.
- Anniversary realms? Same story. No GDKPs, but bots and RMT operations flooded early dungeon farms and gold routes. They didn’t disappear—they just pivoted.
- Meanwhile, in original 2019 Classic (with GDKPs fully allowed), botting existed—but it wasn’t this widespread this fast. And at least GDKPs were transparent: public logs, traceable gold flow, and group accountability.
So if the ban was such a “success,” where’s the result? Where’s the drop in RMT? Spoiler: there wasn’t one. Blizzard removed a system that surfaced gold movement—and left the underlying problem untouched. Banning a format didn’t fix behavior, it just hid the activity behind whispers and Discord servers.
And for the SoM jab? Let’s be honest—SoM failed for reasons far beyond GDKPs. Harsh tuning, dead servers, and bad pacing killed that season. GDKPs didn’t save it, but they sure didn’t sink it either.
SoD’s ban wasn’t a cure. It was performative—looks good on a blog post, does nothing in practice.
Thanks for the thoughtful response—seriously. I respect players who care about the game enough to share stories like that and draw meaningful parallels. Your example with Epic BGs nails what happens when bad actors exploit loopholes and ruin the structure for everyone else. But here’s where the comparison to GDKPs misses the mark a bit.
GDKPs didn’t cause RMT—they exposed it. Blizzard wasn’t uncovering some new crime ring—they just finally saw where the gold was visibly flowing. That’s the irony: by banning GDKPs, they didn’t eliminate shady behavior. They just hid it. RMT didn’t vanish in SoD or Anniversary—it spiked, despite lower player counts. With no GDKPs, bots didn’t stop farming, and buyers didn’t stop buying. They just moved to Discord, DMs, and AH manipulation. Less visibility. Less accountability.
The difference is, GDKPs at least provided a transparent layer. You knew who paid what, who earned what, and why. No such clarity exists in loot council whispers or random SR pugs. So Blizzard choosing to remove the one system with traceable logs and public payouts? That’s not a crackdown. That’s misdirection.
I agree—this is just a game. But to many of us, the structure is the fun. Removing a well-established, player-run loot economy without replacing its functionality is like removing tanks from BGs because some premades were stomping too hard. Doesn’t solve the problem—just changes who gets stomped.
Anyway, appreciate the civility and the dialogue. May your queues be short and your team not full of roleplayers named “Trolloncé.” Cheers.
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False, majority of GDKPs I see advertising are simply looking for dps fills, sure they may say buyers are welcome but I have yet to see one in the last week saying specifically “LF afk buyers”
You can’t really compare SOM and SOD lol, they are 2 completely different games, SOD added a variety of content while SOM only added some new mechanics to raids that people have cleared hundreds of times.
Also you can say SOD was a successful season but it still had major botting and RMT issues regardless of the gdkp ban. Maybe its the large amount of consumes needed in classic, or the constant selling of level boosts. But regardless the botting/RMT never went away and your argument is flawed.
Also I am yet to see a post where blizzard directly says the ban was a success, all they have said is that they are not allowing gdkp in anniversary in line with their policy in SOD.
SoMs biggest issue is that they released it at a terrible time phase 1 or 2 into TBC can’t remember but most everyone just played vanilla and were happily playing TBC not quite yet wanting to replay the raids they just did
Yeah, SoM was released at the worst time possible.
Was only refuting bigblackbops statement that sod wasn’t a success. Implied it wasn’t a success because of no gdkps.
How quickly he forgot the only season to allow gdkps failed miserably
Ok go back to sod
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Everyone here are wasting time trying to explain to a troll lv23 account. Once you check his logs you’ll get the real answer why these ppl are against gdkp lol.
I’ll just be honest here. Gdkp filters bad players who don’t contribute anything to the raid. At least with gdkp, fresh chars have to spend gold on items. People don’t tolerate leeching behaviour, they made the decision to stop playing instead of carrying lfg grey parsers like ripsod.
Once again i repeat: why don’t anti gdkp people just form group by themselves and stop crying? I don’t want to see any HR runs, I simply put them on ignore but you don’t see me asking blizz to ban HR?
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That view is premised on the belief that the forum avatar is the highest level character that person has. If that’s true for ripsod then we must also assume it’s true for you, that you don’t have a level 85 character and that you haven’t played cata at all. Since you’ve never played cata your opinions would be as faulty as ripsod’s and you should be dismissed same as you suggest we do him.
Which they may have bought. They could be completely incompetent players with a lot of gold from a big bank account. Bad players carried for gold. That’s what Musk did, paid for everything, and when caught in game it was revealed he couldn’t even execute the basics of the game on his bought and paid for characters. Do you think he’s the only person playing on line games who does that?
https://futurism.com/gamers-disgusted-musk-cheats-diablo-path-exile