Guild is planning what to do with sod ending and the free character boost.
We were all very excited until we remembered gdkps exist.
Would there be any chance of a new server where we already don’t feel incredibly behind before the expansion has even released? Where gdkps can remain banned.
Does the token help with inflation? Do prices feel like they did last cata or do people feel the need to gdkp to keep up?
Thankyou for your input
I haven’t used any gdkps or bough tokens as doing raids in cata gave you a lot of gold and if your guild is selling boes they should be able to give out cauldrons and feasts. I have slowly made more gold than I spent in cata with simply raid login for long. Doing dailies in Tol’barad and Molten front also can net you a lot of gold which makes it easy to pay for other consumables/enchants/gems. (I have farmed those a bit to make sure I could buy the great expedition yak which is a mount that cost 108k gold in mop)
The only things that cost a lot are boes which are pretty much for people that do gdkps same as darkmoon cards which can cost a lot. You could technically buy tokens for those but really they aren’t necessary to do content.
I don’t think there’s any new servers in mind as the last time they did in wotlk they failed and with server population being much smaller as back then it wouldn’t make much sense imo.
In Dragonsoul there was also the epic gems problem which made those incredibly pricy but Blizzard made those epic gems much easier which made those way more cheap.
Mop raids should also be worth a decent bit in term of gold and there’s a good amount of dailies if you fall behind a bit. Like in wotlk with transmute there’s also many professions daily cds which you can sell for a bit of money which adds up. The tiller’s farm will also help you for consumables without too much time investment.
Something to note as my last edit is that older expansions inflated gold gains a lot so they naturally make it easier to come back until around Legion/BFA.
This is funny, but everyone knows you don’t mean it.
No they learned their lesson in Wrath. No one wants to play on a fresh server with no gdkps, maladath died in Naxx with a lot of guilds hardstuck 4H.
Gold is meaningless after Vanilla, the only barrier you will face is struggling with the content, but LFR is there for you.
Problem is they made 2 fresh, one was flooded with streamer population and died even sooner than Maladath. But this split the fresh population and they never put transfers to go on them when they said they would after a couple months. I think there was a chance that they would have worked but they got sabotaged pretty hard. But the circumstances are different nowadays.
If you’re a guild why worry about GDKPs I assume you already have the numbers so GDKPs aren’t going to impact you at all really, especially so if you’re self reliant. Gold is very easy to come by at the moment and will only get better once MoP launches with the daily quest cap being removed. You don’t need to worry about GDKP’s at all unless you’re actively searching to do them.
You can make ~1k gold just from doing the available 25 dailies in Cataclysm and while yes in MoP, at level 90 the gold they’d provide will be reduced, over 200 dailes were added in MoP
https://www.wowhead.com/mop-classic/quests/mists?filter=27:34;1:1;0:0
The AH isn’t inflated because of GDKPs, the prices on items will be high for the first month or so but that’s completely normal. The people that do GDKP would rather to keep the gold on their person than to spend it in the AH.
Why? They’re honestly the best loot system because it’s based off of a tangible thing and you win even if you lose.
No, pretty sure all servers have some form of GDKPs being run if not being advertised in-game would be on a Discord.
By last Cata do you mean original Cataclysm? We have more gold than original Cataclysm but prices are fine for the most part, the most trouble you’ll have are people flipping stock and people posting items really low/high to bait sellers but you can avoid that by using TSM or some other AH addon.
GDKPs themselves haven’t really done anything to the economy of the game its moreso the bots that create an impact but they’d be present with or without GDKPs which SoD displayed quite clearly.
If they let you transfer to Maladath you could go there. No gdkps.
The gdkps won’t impact anything that matters. There will be people selling challenge modes but you can do them obviously without especially with a guild. The yak mount is just a fun little QoL for people that’s probably the only expensive thing in mop. So far cataclysm consumes have been dirt cheap the only thing that was ever expensive was red gems for a short period of time and now they are basically worthless. The only thing that will be really expensive that isn’t necessary but a huge boon will be the darkmoon trinket which is a daily cd so if your guild is sufficiently prepared with inscriptionists to combat the one day cooldown you should be completely fine or just go without it.
You can go back to SoD if you don’t want GDKPs. Trying to change the game you haven’t even been playing is insane levels of entitlement.
This post is disingenuous. They are a known anti-gdkp poster. Just ignore them and they will likely go away.
You are a bot. Stay in sod
Havnt played classic since wotlk and they had ruined servers by then. Only way to play alts was to show 100k gold in trade.
Having a loot system where the primary currency is purchasable is not great for people that don’t like buying tokens / rmt.
Rmters going to continue rmting. That’s why it’s a poorly designed system. Do you view botting in such a positive light?
Actually quite low numbers of bots on sod, I guess that’s why they saw it as a success. I’d assume most of them would of gone to anni. They will pick up on cata now there is some life being pumped into it.
There’s a reason rules / laws get implemented. People learn.
I didn’t ask for a change btw, asked for advice and a new server as to not change your precious p2w loot system.
And I’m the entitled one. Ironic.
That’s just not true, not every PuG is a GDKP and even then 100k isn’t much once you’ve played for a while.
It’s also farmable through other means, AH, dailies… You can get it passively, getting gold doesn’t have to be from swiping. Gold is easy to come by, you’ll get the gold easily without swiping.
GDKP is the most fair loot system, you win even when you lose, your previous weeks work into your current and no, I don’t think bots are good.
It was going to pick up regardless of SoD players, the start of an expansion is when both bots and actual player count pick up.
So long as you know how to make gold you’ll never have the want to swipe for gold. You don’t ever have to interact with GDKPs if you have no intention on doing them, I know because I’ve only ever done 1 GDKP and that was back in AQ40. Either way you’re coming with your guild so you’re just fear mongering at this point.
Even funnier is worrying about RMT when the wow token is in and has been in since like ToGC. It’s blizzard endorsed now. If he doesn’t like that he can take his own advice, and play the game versions that don’t have it.
I personally won’t ever be buying WoW tokens with real money, I’ve bought them with gold for game time and have done so since ~TotGC when they were first implemented in Classic WotLK. Getting ~20k (it’s 18k atm) a month is very attainable if you’re actually playing the game, just doing the dailies alone nets you ~1k per character so it’s easily attainable.
Also the token is going down so people are buying the token as we speak.
It seems that SoD isn’t getting deleted anytime soon so they can continue on there if they dislike the prospect of GDKPs.
Its fine. Just get your credit card out and swipe it a few dozen times. Then we’ll be caught up
I was there. Skyfury was the most packed server in the history of WoW. We had 10,000 person queue and a 4 hour wait just to log in. It was so bad, blizzard took drastic action and destroyed the server. They did it by locking it for new players and then gave a free transfer off. The horde… who were slighly less in population, took advantage of the free transfer and fled in mass.
It was a cascade effect. Once all the horde left, the alliance left as well. Leaving only me and a couple others on the server.
TLDR: Blizzard destroyed the best and most populated server ever.
People like you try to claim it wasnt popular. But it was the opposite. It was so popular blizzard killed it
I played on Skyfury for about the first 6 months, before transferring off to continue raiding. I would definitely do it again, as Wrath Fresh was on par with Classic fresh 2019 for me. It was a really fun experience. Early SoD would get an honorable mention here.
I haven’t done a single GDKP in Cata Classic, and I’ve probably bought about 12 tokens with gold I’ve earned just from playing the game.
If it was a new server, I wouldn’t be opposed to them restricting legitimate playstyles and pandering to the complainers on it.
I also had my fun on fresh but from my experience it simply failed in Ulduar as there wasn’t enough good players on my server to clear Ulduar hard modes. Most guilds just decided to go on Ashkandi and we joked for a while about Maladath refugees.
Considering the content will get harder I don’t have much interest anymore as finding a good guild takes priority over fresh for me.
I think you are vastly overestimating how much gold matters in Cata. The main thing your gold will go to is Gems, Enchants and any BOEs that happen to be BIS (No you dont “need” the BOEs either). And then proffessions which you only need to level up a bit once a expac. Your consumes (Flask/Feast) are completely funded for by guild minus your prepull potions. And if they arent they are ridiculously cheap.
Incendius had a 4 hour queue back in 2019 around like BWL/ZG phase. Skyfury was not the first nor the last. I had a 6 hour login queue for Faerlina during wrath launch (got dc’d and it placed me in the queue even though I should’ve been able to instantly log back in), was still the first person in my guild to 80 thanks to Botanica solo being way faster than 5 man questing/dungeons.