More like 50%
People dont like your idea because its trash and poorly thought out and doesn’t even solve the problem you want it to solve
Are you familiar with the phrase “dont throw the baby out with the bathwater”?
So, in your mind, throwing about the baby with the bathwater refers to:
- Keeping all the DKP-style features of GDKP.
- Keeping the drama-free loot. (high bidder wins, no council, no crying)
- Keeping the ability to pay for all gold-purchased things with raid rewards (DKP-to-gold).
- Keeping the ability to have all of your characters, accounts, etc. pool DKP.
- Completely 100% removing the ability for people to come to these raids with DKP they bought with their credit card.
While losing:
The ability to RMT, bot, boost, and “play the AH” for DKP.
Hmmmm. I wonder which of these is really the painful loss. You do not like GDKP for the DKP style features. You like it for the RMT features. Again, removing RMT from GDKP raids is of zero value to you, and I’m not really sure what other conclusion you expect us to draw from that.
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Once again showing you have thought very little about this system
If you could transfer dkp to other characters/accounts then people could simply sell their dkp for gold =RMT with extra steps.
Being able to exchange dkp for consumables ect. Would be useless because nobody but total idiots would trade an exclusive currency for a currency that can be earned everywhere else in the game easier
If you make a currency more restrictive than gold is currently then the system would be objectively inferior to gdkp, if you make the currency equally flexible and usable then it would have the exact same issues
You’re too focused on gdkp raids and not the RMT itself
You can’t transfer the DKP. You can pool it, same as GDKP if you’re not RMTing the gold. All your characters earn and spend DKP from the same pool. I’m not personally for this feature of DKP or GDKP, btw. And I would never expect blizz to support separate accounts with something like this, or basically any feature.
ps. before the umpteenth technicality argument from you: If you want to edit the characters in the pool, the DKP in the pool goes to zero.
This is like 8th time I’ve explained to you that you do the exact same thing with your gold as a GDKP raider. There is a market price that you are willing to pay for the currency that you can trade for raid loot. Literally no difference. When you spend 500g on flasks, that’s 500g you could have used to bid on purples. How do you not understand this? Do only think in terms of buying purple with dollars?
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And with gold as the currency being used i can then sell those 500g of flasks back into gold at any point, i can freely exhange the currency and items back and forth
Under your system i would forever lose the dkp if i used it for flasks
Yeah, we already covered the fact that you lose the ability to play the AH for DKP.
Yeah, you would lose it if you used the flasks also. I assume you have, at some point, bought a flask and actually used it right? This is a feature of GDKP you claim to like.
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I can bulk buy 20 flasks at a low price as an investment, and then at a later date sell those flasks back for gold if i need it
Im never hard locked into losing my “dkp” its completely flexible
Nothing about the system you propose is superior to gdkp and there are tons of things about it that are inferior
Its a stupid idea straight up
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Including…
Translation: “I’m an RMTer, so this feature is worthless to me.”
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Yeah sure, just cherry pick the one sole thing you’re hyperfixated on and completely ignore the multitude of other issues about your system
Nobody would use your crappy system so it being “immune” to RMT abuse would be irrelevant
This isnt the gotcha you think it is.
Lol, “hyperfixated on”. It’s the whole point of this thread (hint: read the title).
Do you really think you’re fooling anyone when you go from talking about:
- Incentives for geared players to raid.
- Incentive to finish the raid and not leave after your boss dies.
- No loot drama.
- Need to put in effort and raid to earn epics.
to…
“Oh, but I can’t invest in flasks and then sell them later for DKP so let’s keep the most P2W raid looting system ever developed.”
Again, the removal of RMT from your raids means absolutely nothing to you, and we know why.
Listen man, if this is how you eat - I really don’t care. Keep going. You also have literally nothing to worry about. In WotLK Blizzard doubled down on RMT and now sell gold themselves. They aren’t going to have an anti-RMT transformation for vanilla for some reason.
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Your reasoning is completely devoid of logic dude
The incentives to raid that gdkp offers is precisely because GOLD is a currency that is so flexible and usable in all aspects of the game and can be freely traded between characters with zero restrictions
Your proposed system completely removes a lot of the functionality of the “reward” people go to gdkp groups for in the first place
You have shown you are completely incapable of taking your head out of your a** and actually analyzing WHY gdkp and gold being the driving force in it is so appealing for reasons other than RMT related things, you are so hyperfixated on the RMT aspect of gold that you are refusing to understand the utility it has accross the entire game in completely legitimate functions
You’re lost in the sauce
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"Hey guys, ive noticed a lot of people are using money for illegal things, in order to fix this i propose that all places of employment should instead pay their employees with walmart giftcards instead of cash
Oh what? You dont like that idea? It must be because you buy illegal things, criminal, thats the only reason you could possibly be against my idea"
You basically
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A completely false analogy. In your analogy the money is illegal, not the things being purchased.
“We noticed people are buying legitimate goods(raid epics) with massive amounts of counterfeit currency(gold bought with VISA). In addition, these goods are sold auction-style(GDKP) so that people who legitimately worked for their currency are being outbid by people who cheated for theirs. In response, we are making the currency harder to counterfeit, so that only the legitimate effort of a person can be used to earn these goods”.
The more you dig this hole, the more it reveals about your character. A player raiding non-stop to earn gold-dkp, only to have a wallet warrior drop $500 dollars and trump months of effort is not an issue to you. Cheating in order to ruin the legitimate effort of others is not an issue to you.
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Again, you have nothing to worry about. Blizzard is a pro-RMT company. Blizzard loves wiping out player effort by selling the rewards to others for cash, which is why they added WoW token and became the gold seller themselves.
This is exactly why things like GDKP, Arena carries, etc are not banned. Blizzard counterfeits the currency and lets the players run the auction. This actually helps Blizzard make even more money than if they just sold epics directly for dollars. Even in an obvious P2W game like Black Desert, they don’t just sell the items directly for dollars. They use RNG, competition, and convoluted buying processes to confuse the buyers, generate FOMO, and extract more dollars from them.
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All I see is a cry for the WoW Token to be implemented into Vanilla. You may not be saying that, exactly, but that’s what I’m reading.
This is why I’m not 100% against AH Raiding.
I’m (also) not 100% for it, either.
If it was treated (not that it is, don’t want to go down that rabbit hole, again) like in-gambling, it would stop the complaints. And, there’d be no reason to implement the WoW Token.
You’re definitely not reading it right. What I’m saying is that P2W loot systems go hand-in-hand with blizzard selling WoW tokens. The reason they don’t remove them is because it helps them sell more WoW tokens.
The reason era does not have a WoW token is because blizzard must feel it isn’t worth the bad press at this point, most likely because of the lower population of era. In retail and WotLK they saw enough cash lying on the table to pull the trigger on making the game full P2W.
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people who buy loot with bought gold are the same people that got boosted from lv 10 to 60 from bought gold.
nerf boosting and all these people will never get the chance to get to lv 60 on their own to buy gear on gdkps.
gdkps without boosting are fine.
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I regularly say that Blizzard should just ban all level 60 mages
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No real people would be impacted by this.