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Hes simply incapable of seperating RMT and gdkp in his brain
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Ive noticed.
Yes, and you also donât want a system that prevents other people from cheating in the GDKPs that you are ânot cheating inâ. Why is that?
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Because then Id have to worry about the auction house, guilds, gbanks, crafters, etc.
Youâre offering a system that is worse in almost every way and youâre surprised we wouldnât want to use that when we already have a system that works perfectly fine
Because as you said, it wouldnât prevent RMT at all, so that aspect of it is moot
What about them dude? LOL. You RMT. If you didnât you would have no issue with a system identical to GDKP where you canât swipe for that sweet GDKP influx. What I really donât understand is why you canât just empty your paycheck on gacha waifus instead of bringing it to classic WoW.
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This system is going to suffer from the same hoarding problem. When I talk to some of the geared 60s in these runs who are bidding 5k+ for items, itâs not from gold buying - sometimes they are AH fiends, but more common are the people who have been running multiple GDKPs per week for over a year.
Fundamentally all of the complaints are the same as every loot system - âIâm new and its hard to get items, and no one wants to play with me. Everyone else is hard to compete with.â
Because they cant be separated.
It was literally why they released the WotLK coin⌠Blizzard decided to just participate in the RMT raiding model instead of stopping the problem.
GDKP/RMT will be why Blizzard releases a Vanilla Coin. Wanting to justify another stream of profit is WHY they are allowing RMT raiding on classic servers.
Blizzard Board Meeting Agenda Item 69
âPeople already buy gold, so why arent we just selling it to them?â
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It would prevent RMT within the raid. The same raids that you claim youâre not RMTing in. The importance of this is so insignificant to you that you cannot see it because you ARE RMTing in those raids and are lying about it to us on the forums 
Edit: Also it is worse in zero ways than GDKP, it is identical in every feature to GDKP except that you canât RMT in it. And you will always reject it for the same reason- you RMT.
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I have never RMTâd. You dont have to RMT to GDKP.
What about them? Why would I play the moral high ground on one aspect of the game because of RMT and not play it on every other system in the game that is associated with RMT?
IF Iâm an RMTâer because I partipate in an activity that is associated with RMT, then youâre an RMTâer because someone who bought an auction of yours did it with gold they bought from someone else. Literally no difference.
Every time they get backed into a corner on their faulty âlogicâ they just resort to accusing you of RMT
Usually when peoples argument shift from addressing the actual points to trying to attack the character/credibility of the person they are arguing with its a pretty good indicator that they have lost the debate
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Feel free to explain how a system that is identical to GDKP except you canât swipe is worse than GDKP. There is no faulty logic here. Thereâs nothing wrong with me exposing an RMTer for defending their disguised RMT raiding.
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If its identical to gdkp then you would just be able to echange the dkp for gold or good outside of raid, which then just makes it a middleman currency exactly like gold, thus just being the same as gdkp with extra steps
âJust shut up and take the goldâ
This is the line that gets repeated OVER AND OVER when you oppose GDKP
Letâs pretend you, as a carry, dont RMT.
The âbuyersâ in the group spending 1k on ZG/AQ20 loot and 10k on MC/BWL loot, while wearing all AH greens, likely are RMTing.
Leaders/officers of GDKP guilds sell the gold they earn back to guildies and buyers they trust for real life money.
ALL OF THAT CAN BE TRUE!!!
You cannot deny that it exists
It is why pug groups specifically ask for buyers in their raids
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It can be true sure. That doesnt mean that all, or even most GDKPers do it.
Buyers just means they prefer people who are there to bid on things, not that they must have bought gold to get in. People on classic have had 4 years to accumulate wealth.
Or consider this
Those players in greens spending all that gold in gdkps have a MAIN that they gdkp on and can use the gold from months of gdkps to quickly gear their fresh 60 alts
Its a very simple concept
Its exactly what i just did after comming back to era
I had 4k gold on my shaman, i ran gdkps for a little over a month and leveled a warlock when i wasnât raiding, by the time i hit 60 on my warlock i had over 25k gold from my gdkp cuts that i then used to quickly gear my warlock, and now that i have 2 60s i can run twice as many gdkps and earn gold even quicker
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Iâve explained to you multiple times that you can exchange the DKP for gold, but not gold for DKP. How does this not make sense to you?
Itâs not exactly like gold because the raid gear can only be bought with DKP and the exchange to gold is one-way only. You can still buy consumes, respecs, whatever with your DKP.
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So just get rid of gold completely then
Agreed.
Thats called HC SSF, apparently