You think there were more bots and people buying gold? Speaking about naive. People had less to spend compared to now. I mean, 20 euros for gold is nothing now. People that are spending thousands of gold in gdkp every week is just sus. Sure there are people that have such gold by doing gdkp back in sunwell but thats a minority %.
there were bots in 2009 but the game was in its peak. Biiiiiig difference. If you played a bg in 2009, there were no dk bots dominating with 6/10 people. Besides, the bot detecting was pretty decent back in the day. Now a days, the bots are much and much better to bypass.
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I think its obvious there was more bots and people buying gold in a population of 12 million as compared to 400,000+. Its laughable to think otherwise.
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Itâs quite incredulous to believe that the serverâs economy is solely sustained by gold generated through questing and killing mobs, especially considering the vast amounts of gold being circulated in GDKP (Gold-DKP) runs. The numbers simply donât add up, and the presence of Death Knight (DK) bots in dungeons sheds light on this issue.
The notion that players are acquiring such large quantities of gold purely through traditional gameplay methods is questionable. Itâs evident that external factors, such as DK bots, are playing a significant role in inflating the gold supply. These automated accounts not only disrupt the dungeon experience but also contribute to the distortion of the serverâs economic balance.
Addressing this issue is crucial for maintaining a fair and healthy economy. Effective measures should be implemented to identify and combat DK bots, ensuring that the gold supply is primarily driven by legitimate player activities. By doing so, we can restore the integrity of the serverâs economy and create a more enjoyable and balanced gameplay environment for all.
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Its funny that you actually compare a game that was full at peak with millions of players when wow was still new and all, and where bots were much easier to ban and spot through their system + it was actually âretailâ with resources to burn. Something that classic wotlk lacks and where bots have free play with a long time free dk creation with just a sub.
Isnt it obvious to see more bots % when the player counts are much lower than back in 2009? Sure, there were bots too but not with this rate lol.
Again, did you see loads of bot dks in 2009, dominating bgs? Not even talking about the dk bots that are present in dungeons as we speak. Because yeah, free dk creation with just a sub from launch.
I guess you are just trolling.
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What economy??
Gold is literally worthless outside of gdkps.
You need help buying those 2g Potion of speed???
Its not trolling, its common sense.
There were more bots and more gold buyers/sellers in 2009 before GDKPs were even heard of than there is now. That is a fact.
Infact the token came out to combat botting and selling/buying of gold before GDKP was hugely widespread in retail.
If you dont like the system, thats fine. You could however reset all gold and permaban all sellers and buyers and GDKP would still be the best loot system for pugging.
So because gold is worthless is ok to buy gold ???
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I never said that.
All im saying is youre spouting off this economy propaganda as if someone buying 200k gold to go buy a Valanyr effects you literally at all.
Are your raid consumes increasing in price because a GDKP had a 3 million gold pot?
Dont be silly.
The impact of inflation and money dumping is particularly significant, especially for new players who are more vulnerable to its effects. These practices undermine the stability of the economy and go against fundamental principles taught in economics schools. Furthermore, they inadvertently incentivize the proliferation of bots within the game.
Itâs truly astonishing that individuals would argue in favor of such practices that clearly violate the established rules. Even if these activities were somehow perceived as having no direct impact on the economy, it remains essential to uphold the integrity of the game and adhere to the rules set forth by its developers.
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haha.
botting n gold buying r big problems in da game right now.
a guild officer dat also sells gold on a discord while also running a gdkp discord. note da ranks n color of their name in da discords.
imgur. com/a/YdnNCOj
haha. here is a photo of a guilds guild master telling buyers in da gold selling discord how to get priority spots in da gdkp discord. note da ranks n color of their name in da discord. green is gdkp leader.
imgur. com/a/yboW7Pw
screenshot of dat same guilds gdkp discord promoting da same gold selling discord. haha. note da ranks n color of their name in da discord. yellow is leader.
imgur. com/a/GyQcgZf
dis one gold farming operation had 45,000,000 gold sold in tbc classic with da price of 12 usd dollars per 1000 gold.
540,000 usd real life money earned through one gdkp selling gold to people. no one can say dis does not ruin da spirit of classic n promote pay to win culture. too much gold in da game from bots.
think about all da other gold farming operations on da classic servers. dis is just one example.
haha. so funny.
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Ayy Mcg, nice of you to show up!
No one is saying to not ban gold buyers.
Literally no one.
Your imaginary economy is just irrelevant in an MMO.
Nothing is going up in price because someone buys gold.
That new player only cant compete in a gdkp.
His raid consumes havent increased in price, his abilities he has to train dont increase in price, literally nothing increases in price from a gdkp besides items in a gdkp.
Youre acting as if 200 billion gold on a server makes everything go up in price for a ânew playerâ and it doesnt, literally everything is cheap.
Gold is meaningless outside of gdkps, this doesnt mean anyone is saying to allow gold buying, no one is saying that.
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I like how disagreeing with someone automatically means youre defending something.
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Idk im out here with 2g potion of speeds and 5g flasksâŚ
The poor economy!!!
Lmfao
People were buying greatness for 25-30k 14 years ago but somehow our economy is jacked.
Titansteel bars 31g each
Saronite ore stacks 12g each
Titanium ore stacks 46g
I can understand why people are broke with all this inflation
Greatness decks on classic launch were like 26-32k on Benediction, they are now at 5k.
The inflation is really killing the greatness deck market.
Them GDKPs are making it so your average joe cant even afford a trinket these days
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I just know you were hoping those screenshots posted above would get ignored, since they paint a very clear picture of why youâre in these threads day and night deflecting. I take it you have no interest in explaining why your raid leader is also the leader of a gold buying Discord that brags about the 45 million gold it has sold through GDKPs?
https ://imgur.com/a/YdnNCOj
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That dude has been posting those same screen shots for months, those arent new.
Thats Mcg, he was kicked from Hunks months ago.
That isnt my raid leader, look at the dates, those are old SS, i wasnt even in hunks then.
I joined hunks in wotlk a week before p2 launched.
Me defending gdkps has nothing to do with hunks as i was doing it before i even joined this guild.