The people you see demanding gdkps be banned are the same people malding because no one wants to bring their 220 ilvl 400io character to 15 keys in retail. Like, why would anyone do it?
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There are some people who purely do GDKP, but for the most part itâs alts or people who canât raid that week or looking for an item from an older raid their guild doesnât raid anymore.
Honestly I enjoyed the gathering around after raid and the bidding processâŚsome gdkps get really into the auctioneer persona. When I did them more consistently in classic it was a nice way to make 2-3k a week minimum, even snagged some gear when it was not in a bidding war
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Iâve also met a lot of people in other guilds to do things with outside of gdkp settings BY being in the gdkp! Like if my guild imploded tomorrow Iâd be fine because there are countless other people thatâve played with me and know my competence level. If anything itâs strengthened my relationship with the server as whole.
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Blacklist the word gdkp in GBB and you wonât see them.
Sorry to say but there are plenty of Karazhan runs or Zulâaman runs still going on for catch up gear, the badge gear is where itâs at.
Personally Iâm doing GDKPs on 2 of my alts to get gold for WOTLK, I prefer do that than doing soft-reserve runs, you are at least sure to get out of there with something. But there are many soft-reserve runs going on if I check my serverâs discord.
But obviously so far at the end of the xpac, donât expect miracles.
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new players have to compete with players geared from gdkps.
Where are new players getting the gold from for this?
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Imagine youâve done GDKPs since BWL to now, getting at least 1k a week, ever week for 3 years.
Thatâs how
Even though I usually think posts like this are trolling, im going to give you the most comprehensive response to this post you could ask for.
Tldr; your entitlement is the problem not the gkdps.
- Gdkps are good for the economy of the game.
- Not the gold buying that funds it, or the gold sellers that perpetuate it. The people buyers and sellers of gold should be banned with extreme measures. Such as the removal of the gear on their toons. Not just removing gold for them to buy it again.
These players you are lamenting that arent playing with you were not going to play with you anyways. Gdkps give an incentive for geared players to assist lesser geared players. Without the reciprocity they would stay only within already geared guild groups or quit and wait until wrath or the next raid. Banning gdkps is not going to solve your issue of no one to raid with.
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Its complete nonsense that you cant find groups for appropriate content without the aspect of gdkps on a populated server. Key word being APPROPRIATE. I have no problem getting into gruuls mags in DHT HR groups on some of my alts who are in full greens. Mostly they just want warm bodies so they can field a full 25 man group. There are non gdkp Kara groups running every single day, every time of day, on the server I play on. Provided your gear is close to P1 pre raid bis (mostly dungeon gear) you can get invited. Unless youâre a rogue, ungeared rogues do less dps than tanks. These groups will also likely have a few geared carries who are just there for badges.
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T5 is a little bit trickier as its almost exclusively gdkps however there are still a couple sr groups who do 4/10 or 5/10 looking for specific items off vash & kt, assuming you are at least full T4 gemmed & enchanted appropriately they will generally invite you (again provided that you arent a rogue)
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After youve gone through T4 & T5 (like everyone else who is geared did) then you can usually find a spot in a guild that is still doing T6 and some sunwell.
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Your issue with gkdps will almost certainly be one of 3 things. All of which stem from the same issue. No one is obligated to play with you.
- a sense of entitlement to other peoples time
- a sense of impatience wanting to be full T6 by the time wrath comes out, while others spent more than 30 weeks in BT to get the same loot.
- you play a undesireable class that no one wants to play with regaurdless.
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There is nothing blizz can do about it. If they ban gdkps then those players will just quit the game until the next raid tier. Its better to pay geared players to help carry you than to not have a group at all.
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Gold buy run existed 15 years ago in real classic and they still exist today for a reason.
Chill out, run dungeons, and slowly progress your gear⌠you know⌠Like everyone else did, and youll probably be in a decent position before wrath comes out.
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Interesting that a new player has been doing that every week for 3 years.
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classic was never going to be super welcoming to a brand new player to come in at the last 3-4 months of the tbc lifespan.
OkâŚ
I addressed someone who said new players have to compete with players from gdkp by asking how new players get the gold for gdkp. And you said from doing gdkps for 3 years. Which means theyâre not a new player.
And whether Classic is or should be welcoming to new players wasnât really the point. It was more subtle than that.
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I would advise a new player to join a guild for one.
A new player shouldnât be worrying about bidding in a GDKP - it isnât made for them unless they want to farm gold and join Kara/Gruul GDKPs and work their way up
As a new player if you dont have SR runs or a guild you should either lend gold from friends for gear or simply call it quit, farm gold and wait until wrath for an even playing field, least that is what I would do.
Thereâs like, two months of TBC left.
Go farm some gold, thatâll do more for you in WotLK than any gear that will drop for you.
Also, go make some friends and find a guild thatâll suit you in WotLK.
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Thatâs fine.
My two main concerns with GDKPs are first that it promotes RMTs. But thatâs not so much a GDKP issue as it is an incompetence of Blizzard to police their game issue. As long as players are making the gold themselves in-gameâŚBlizzard really canât and shouldnât tell players how to spend that gold within the game.
And secondly that players will just say, âWhy even join a guild?â and just run pug GDKPs and effectively buy gear. But apparently thatâs not happening as players are mostly just using it for alts. Is it a potential that thatâs what will happen? Iâm not qualified to answer, so you guys would know better than me. But it would be a pretty sorry state if there are very few guilds and just nothing but GDKP pug runs.
I find it more ironic than anything that Brian Birmingham sings his praises for GDKPs and then criticizes and removes dungeon finder because itâs âanti-socialâ and against the spirit of Classic. But I do have a weakness for pointing out hypocrisy.
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So, did Brian say he was running with a GDKP, or did he say he was running a GDKP?
Literally having gold in this game promotes RMT. People want stuff, they donât want to work for said stuff in game, they buy gold to buy it.
People were buying gold day one in SOM to buy riding skill, to buy consumes, to pay for class training.
It doesnât matter, if you want to end RMT forever? Make every single item free
lol no. The only established people are the carries trying to make gold off the buyers. GDKPâs whole purpose is to extract as much gold as possible from fewest number of people possible so the run is quick and they can carry another to drain more whales.
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Not cool enough to make friends, not skilled enough to make teammates, not rich enough to buy gear.
Rough spot bud
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Well finishing your outlands quests will get you several thousand gold and with how many dailies are available now you can easily pull in hundreds of gold a day. And thatâs gold thatâs available to everyone, doesnât require competing with bots or playing the AH etcâŚ