This nonsense is the Cancer of Classic. It needs to just stop. Raids are not the auction house. Everyone that showed up to a raid should have and equal and fair chance to roll on loot. GDKP is destroying the game and it forces people to buy gold/ or boost people for gold in order to compete for raid gear. Its stupid. Boosting is destroying the game. Change my Mind. People don’t want to group for dungeons anymore. The /4 LFG chat is nothing but a chat spammed with “WTS Boost” or “WTB Boost” Its destroyed the soul of the classic experience. Blizzard didn’t destroy the game, the toxic community did with its garbage. RIP World of Warcraft 2004-2021.
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It won’t. People love pay to win mechanisms they just don’t like admitting it. Buy gold from China > use gold to purchase boosts from China > use gold from China to buy gear in GDKP
GG credit card wins.
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But how else would people optimize the game to spend less time playing it to get the best gear available to afk in shattrath for flexes? We need more people min/maxing the game in order to prevent more people playing the game longer obviously. Why else would people spend time playing a video game in the first place?
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Then join a raid that isn’t a GDKP. Simple.
Oh, I know you somehow play on a realm that doesn’t have a non-GDKP. Make your own raid that isn’t GDKP or join a guild. Simple. Problem solved.
No, it isn’t and no it doesn’t. Yes, you do need gold to compete for gear. That is the entire point of the loot system.
Nope, that is just your opinion.
Care to elaborate on how it is doing that outside of “Wah, someone won’t play with me”; because if that is your only point it is a moot one. No one is obligated to play with you simply because they are leveling a new character, and even if they were who is to say they would even bother to if they were forced to play with you.
Not likely. You are probably a hardliner and will entirely ignore or avoid any point your own side or the other brings up that don’t align with your own ideals.
Yes, they do. I form a dungeon group all the time. I have 7 60s soon to be 8. Most of those characters were leveled in phase 5 and phase 6. Maybe take the initiative if you don’t see a group and form it yourself.
It is also spammed with political talk, bad jokes, and trolls. At least WTS Boost and WTB Boost are groups doing dungeons.
Nope, it was Blizzard with the system after system that changes the community into what it is from what it was. I don’t know exactly when, but it was definitely sometime after Firelands. The community was still good then if a little bit whiny about the difficulty of early cata heroics.
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Have you ever actually done a GDKP in the first place? After reading the forums and reddit complaining about it constantly, I finally have done a few and the vast majority of items go for amounts that are easy to farm ingame unless it’s the newest content.
BiS items also don’t normally go for nearly what ppl on the forums act like they go for.
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GDKP isn’t a problem so much as where the gold comes from. And this is coming from someone who never runs or had interest in gdkp.
If everyone earned there gold legitimately then there’d be nothing wrong with it. Sure different way to play the game but I wont pretend there’s only one way to play.
However when swiping a credit card, not earning in yourself in game, is how you obtain the gold then it becomes p2w cesspool. Blizzard should have a zero tolerance policy towards gold buying. Get caught your battle net account is banned. And more resources should be dedicated to finding gold buyers not just gold sellers. If they can’t fix the root of the issue, aka the bots, then work backwards from the gold buyers to the sellers. I might not like gdkp but if everyone was earning there gold in legit ways its not our place to tell them how to play. But if you’re buying gold illegally then you have no entitlement to play that way to begin with.
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Unfortunately you have gotten a skewed sample. The GDKP prices of the last 2 months are significantly deflated by the knowledge of the impending BC launch. 25,000 gold Dragon Fang Talismans happened last Summer. 70,000 gold Kiss of the Spiders happened in January.
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It’s a player constructed problem, I don’t think there’s a good way for Blizzard to resolve it. To stop GDKPs you’re going to need to convince people to not go to them.
Did AQ40 last night.
Pot was 12k total
Most expensive item was Cloak of the Devoured for 1600
Some other big ticket items were: Armament for 1150, Gauntlets of Annihilation for 1050, Eye of C’thun for 1000, Ring of the Martyr for 600
I personally couldn’t imagine spending that much on items this close to the expansion, but I guess when 1000g is 1/50th of your wallet your perception on worth is skewed.
If it was 6 months ago Armament would be 10k+, GoA 10k+, Ring of the Martyr 4-6k.
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GDKP isn’t bad when there is a pot that is split among the raid, when dummies think we are there for their convenience to make them rich by giving them our gold for no reason just because they host a raid it is a lame idea and i advise not attending those.
You’re over-complicating it. The community changed because the population changed. In 2007 the “dad guilds” of today were the majority of the community and the largest demo of the population. We’re now 35 and over, and we are not Blizzard’s target audience. The community is this festering cesspool because it is what the majority of the population wants it to be.
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this is the second stupidest thing ive read this morning, so when you use gold to buy an item of the ah you are paying to win by your dumb@#! logic. yeah, the chinese will always be around but blizzard does a good job dealing with it, an ex guildy got banned for buying so its not just ‘well blizzard does nothing durururur’. you people are all the same thinking gdkp is pay to win because you cant afford it, thinking multiboxing is botting, i dont know how you turn your pc on in the morning let alone get dressed
buying gold is literally not pay to win…its pay to be lazy…this is why we cant have nice things because timmys like you and the timmy who started this post cant figure out definitions. pay to win would be buying something nobody who plays can get that makes you stronger so you literally win over them…paying gold, even if its from kungpowtown doesnt make it pay to win because you can literally get the same items, timmys everywhere
Lmao so you pay for gold then farm just as much as me. Guess what happens? You have more resources because you paid money. Now you get the items because you have more resources.
Or you buy gold then spend that time increasing character power while I’m stuck grinding for the same amount of gold while you get stronger. Definition of credit card warrior.
Dumb take is dumb. Sounds like mental gymnastics to convince yourself you’re not pay to win so you can feel like your win means more, “Timmy”.
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They like it when it’s not obvious. Hence why if Blizzard were to do it all hell would break loose but when people do it themselves it’s nothing to see here everything’s fine.
Hypocrisy at its finest
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So your sample size for this claim is 1 out of hundreds of thousands. And I’m saying stupid stuff? LOL
I go to GDKP lmao
I’m a multiboxer LOL. I have 5 accounts like a mega-virgin (technically 6 since I have a dungeon reset / AH watcher account)
With how much sweat drips off me daily, getting dressed is a problem.
Unfortunate you have chosen to misrepresent GDKP. I’ve been doing them for awhile, and even in Naxx when it was earlier one. I barely walked out with 1k. This means only 40k was spent in that Naxx… a raid that has items being removed from the game in the next expansion.
They unlike the rest of the raids, hold their value.
As Tulgin says. A massive majority of items go for easily farmable gold, or if you don’t want to farm gold you can simple do a GDKP one week and then buy two items the next week.
The sole exception would be things like DFT, Gressil, and Corrupted Ashbringer.
What uber-rich realm are you playing on and where can I sign up as a carry…
Am I, if the game still catered to are targeted the same type of players that would eventually make up our “dad guilds” the community would have not changed that much. However, the game started catering to a different type of player. Leaving those dad players only two options. Accept, Adapt, and Overcome or Quit.
Gonna have to agree here. Had an ex guildie choosing to return to the game for TBC. He bought gold to catch up quicker. Was banned for it. The entire guild had a laugh about it.
and will have to disagree here. Pay to win is buying anything that gives you an advantage over another player. Buying gold gives you an advantage over another player. Therefore buying gold is pay to win. The only reason the term pay to win is coming under fire is because corporations and people who supported them wanted to implement something and not have it called pay to win because of the negative association it gives. This is why cosmetics are not “pay to win” and games that monetized that way such a league of legends for example is not called a pay to win game.
It is like EA calling loot boxes “surprise mechanics” because of the negative association the term “loot box” brings with it.
I am sorry, but what in the actual hell do you get from this… Like no I get it I have two other accounts. Because I could do what I wanted to do one a singular account (taming all the rare pets)… which also make me think I only had two active accounts and that third one blizzard placed there because one of the hunters that should have been on the second account is on the third and a character that should have been on my primary account is on the second…
Anyway… What exactly do you even do…
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the only toxic stuff is the constant hate on anything that different than how it was 14 year ago, fing newsflash the past is the past you CANT get it back by playing an older game.
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Gdkp would be fine if botters , multboxers and the WoW token didn’t exist.
Agreed, but you ain’t seen nothin yet, as they say.
I don’t understand the hate on GDKP. It’s advertised as such and it’s not like anyone is forced into it, they run in tandem with other forms of Pug-Raids, if you were honest, most SR or other forms of pug raids most of the time have hard reserved items for guilds, which definitely goes against your “everyone should have an equal chance” speech.
If the GDKP players also does guild raids, then I see it even less of a problem, your guild mate is buying his BiS items and winning it from other GDKPers and leaving those items for your guild. I’m not sure what you are competing on in that sense.
Lastly, GDKPs tend to run smoother than most pugs because everyone is incentivised to do well. Most of the people people who have issues with GDKP so far have been those who have never went to one.
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