Gatekeeping is a Lie

You’re continuing to argue with people trying to claim there’s no gatekeeping in SoD. Why waste the time? Gatekeeping is the defining characteristic of SoD. Just like it was in Mythic Lite dungeons in Wrath Classic.

Private server players have taken over and filled the game with this toxic gatekeeping. That’s just the reality.

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No it isn’t.

The only thing players can keep you from doing is joining their group.

No player can stop you from doing any of the content in the game.

I don’t think people are complaining about not being able to get into a certain person’s group. I think they don’t like the statistical increase in the number of groups having multiple prerequisites.

For instance, in the beginning on WoW there were guild prerequisites. Then there started to be pug prerequisites.

It seems, like Goldilocks and The Three Bears, there is a sweet spot. We don’t want something to hot or to cold, to much or to little, etc. We want it juuuust right.

Then make your own group.

Problem solved

And making your own group gives you the control to make your “just right” group.

So we have been past your point for over 3 days now. At 3 days it was already considered a long time.

3 days+.

Can we move on now?

I’m surprised no one gave you the obvious alternative.

Join a trash group. Go 6/7. “Chill vibes”

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ok then. you don’t make enough money to afford a mcdonalds cheese burger lol.

They can join a different group.

You are obsessed with other people being forced to invite you to their group.

Telling you no is not gatekeeping you because that one group is not the only group out there.

If you want the control of who is in the group LEAD the group. If you dont want to lead the grouo there are other groups to join.

You are not entitled to join other people’s groups. If that is the game design you want, then go to retail and do lfr and lfd as it will essentially force others to group with you.

Listen. We get every single word you are saying and have absorbed every single word you said. Now that you have said it, everyone agrees that there is no point to saying the exact same thing over and over again. So everything you said has been noted and doesn’t have to be mentioned again.

The topic is still up. The conversation still drives on.

Speaking of words, the word that describes this behaviour is ENTITLEMENT

Entitlement - the belief that one is inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment.

You do not have the right to join someone’s group. Period.

I will congratulate you on finally reaching the conclusion that no one will play with you unless they’re forced to though. That shows at least a bit of self awareness.

The problem is instead of using that self awareness to make yourself into a player someone might be willing to spend time with, you’ve instead chosen to double down and demand that “it’s the other people that are wrong”.

Get a grip. Real life must be hard for you.

Incorrect friend, the word that describes my behavior is FRUSTRATION

Frustration- the feeling of being upset or annoyed, especially because of inability to change or achieve something.

I don’t care about joining peoples group. In fact, I mentioned the guy had a good point, I mentioned I agreed with him or anyone vetting players for Gnomer, and I stated I’m not a PvE player so I don’t even tend to go into Gnomer so it’s all a moot point for me personally. I said I was here to help explain for others so keep coming at me bro.

I haven’t reached a conclusion on anything other than my frustration in not being able to change your opinions or achieve helping you understand what the players are complaining about.

I’m not a PvE player. I’m a PvPer. I’m the guy everybody already likes. I’m the guy helping kill Dark Riders every single day so players don’t have to solo it. I’m the guy coming to a general chat call for help when Alliance is attacking cities. I’m the guy carrying around blue items with enchants on it, just to see the right person who needs it and give it to them free with an epic message. I’m already that guy bruh, so I truly don’t know wtf your smoking as you come at me.

lol, you are fighting yourself. You are creating a straw man and are upset with it. There is no reason to be upset when I can tell you are not getting my point. Now, if you got my point and still got upset, fine, but you’re not.

To bad your not Alliance, I would of really enjoyed seeing you in game, remembering your message, and owning you like it’s nothing.

Gl though

There’s also no such thing as gaslighting, you’re just being craaazy.

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There are more people looking to run Gnomer than there are groups.

You getting frustrated at a subset of people who put criteria on entry to their specific groups shows you have put an unhealthy attachment on your self-worth to your acceptance to Gnomer groups in WoW.

A well adjusted person just doesn’t get frustrated by things like this, they can objectively understand that:

  1. They don’t have to go with a group that is putting criteria on entry they don’t agree with.
  2. There are so many Gnomer groups you can just wait 5 min and you’ll find one that fits your personality
  3. You can always make your own group with your own criteria, or none at all
  4. Personal enjoyment of the game isn’t affected by others enjoying it differently.
  5. Being rejected from a Gnomer raid does not reflect on you as a person.

I’ll reiterate, get a grip. Clearly WoW is not healthy for you.

I had gotten frustrated because of you. Does it sound like I’m frustrated here?

Do you not agree that there can be to much of something, to little of something, and/or just enough of something? I’m going to auto assume you do so I can get to the point. “Gatekeeping” is not the correct word to use but people are using it. I’m not sure what the correct word to use is so maybe you can help. They are pointing out the observable fact they don’t want to see in chat:

Gnomer 6/6 disc WB and pots required must know fight!
Gnomer 6/6 disc WB and pots required must know fight!
LF Enchanter
Gnomer 6/6 disc WB and pots required must know fight!
WTS Summons
Gnomer 6/6 disc WB and pots required must know fight!
Gnomer 6/6 disc WB and pots required must know fight!

Instead, they would rather see:

Gnomer 6/6 disc WB and pots required must know fight!
Gnomer 6/6 disc WB and pots required must know fight!
LF Enchanter
Gnomer fresh run be geared for it and don’t be bad!
WTS Summons
Gnomer 6/6 disc WB and pots required must know fight!
Gnomer fresh WB pots required

See how it’s more of a spread? It “seems” they are upset about that. For instance, if the more try hard groups naturally reduced less than a few percent would be enough, meaning all of this is organic to current gamer culture.

Nothing else you wrote applies to me so I skimmed over it. You really beat the crap out of that straw man though.

You can just admit you don’t know what a Straw man is you have only seen it used on the internet.

Imagine becoming this unhinged because people didn’t use your pre-approved language when looking for a group.

My understanding is that “gatekeeper” means you are the ONLY way (or one of very few) to access the content.

i.e. there’s ten miles of fence, and only one gate through it, and I own the gate. If I don’t let you through, you ain’t getting through.

But that is certainly not the case in wow raids. Yes I can keep you out of MY raid, but there are dozens/hundreds of other raids. You can even make your own.

I gatekeep raid leaders :joy:

I always check a raid leaders WCL

I know… I am a bad person :man_shrugging:

ya’ll be gatekeepin’ :expressionless:

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You said 3 days ago you were done posting on the forums lol.

Wut happened :clown_face:

It’s pretty obvious their self-esteem is closely tied to their WoW performance and position in the “community”

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