Yeah… it is.
I watched a video of a group 6manning it 3 weeks after P2 dropped, and their top DPS was slightly better than half of my own DPS in there.
If it weren’t for the CL mechanic on Electro, it could probably be 4manned with a good group.
A full group of 10 could have 3 DPS AFK and still clear it.
Whoosh 
Honk Honk
I would think that is a proper gate. That Blizzard defines the gate. If a player can’t get into Gnomer before level 40, that is the standard. When players want beyond the standard and require more, that is the definition of gatekeeping.
Keep in mind, if I raided, I think it’s reasonable to want well geared, level headed players in your group. I still support the argument for reducing the over abundance of try hard gameplay for a 20 year old game.
Can you quote what you have contention with? I’m not understanding your post and feel you haven’t read through the posts in this topic. I’m ready to answer whatever though.
Lots of low parsers in this thread.
Oh look another 1
Players cant keep you out of a raid,
They can keep you out of their group but they dont control who gets to do gnomer.
This whole “gatekeeping” thing has been dumb from the start.
You’re not alone.
I’ve seen it too.
It truly is a thing of confusion. I guess it’s difficult to explain something without invoking the idea of other things.
I know players can’t literally keep you out of a raid. I know they don’t literally control Gnomer.
But there has to be other words to express the fact that 99% of groups looking for players for Gnomer are asking for allot of requirements that are not truly required, thus are gatekeeping requirements.
People don’t need to keep you from raiding. But if they become the majority of raids asking for 6/6 Gnomer before people even got a chance to get to 40 then that is effectively keeping you from raiding.
I for instance started leveling the day Phase 2 was launched. I leveled the hours I could put in every single day. Yet still, once I got to 40, all Gnomer runs posted then and for days, weeks, months have asked for 6/6 Gnomer. From my point of view, that can only come from super sweaty people who are trying way to hard for some odd reason. For a guild, it makes perfect sense, get the top 1% of players baby. But casual life? pshhh
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I don’t know what that means, but unless you think I’m lying, I’m trying to tell the truth from my point of view. I’m a single person here, it’s my point of view.
I pushed to get to 40. I go to and I’m in major cities every day and for hours each day. Every single time I’m in a major city I watch general and trade, watching you grouping, looking for a score run. From the moment I actively looked at 40, it’s been 6/6 required all day long.
You can choose to believe it or not, but for me it’s facts.
The first few weeks no one cares if you’ve done it or not, because no one has done it. If you still haven’t at this point your best bet is to build a group to get experience.
No one had any gear the first time they did gnomeregan, and you don’t need to be gnomeregan geared to parse a 50.
I know it upsets you but people want to play with others that have put as much effort in as they have.
I’ve seen quite a few groups in LFG specifically stating no experience required.
Either way, that’s just what happens for DPSers. There’s so many DPS looking for Gnomer that raid leaders get to be picky. I don’t really think that should be viewed as gatekeeping – that’s just how supply and demand works.
I get where you are coming from but that is not true though. In Phase 2, I watched allot of people get in a group and spam dungeons all day every day. They leveled up extremely quickly, grinding in a way others should not be expected to grind. Once these people got to 40 before everyone else, they went into Gnomer and cleared it with their full BFD gear, etc. Then they started posting for 6/6 people, this is before I personally even got a chance to get to 40.
So it may not be you which is cool, but their are a peoples which act as the majority now that are complete try hards wanting you to not only know every fight, but to have fought every fight. It’s a new level of sweat, spamming channels, all day long.
I haven’t at this point, but I don’t want to at this point. I’m going to go through the entirety of Phase 2 without going into Gnomer again and I’m happy with that just as I never entered a single BFD. I’m speaking up for others, I personally and not hurt over these so called gatekeepers.
Tell this to the gatekeepers, to prove to them a person is fine without Gnomer gear to enter Gnomer so 6/6 is not required.
I don’t have to have skin in the game in order to desire to comment on these forums. I could give a big deuce after a warm coffee in truly caring.
I hope you truly don’t mean “with others that have put as much effort in as they have.” Because in WoW now days you are saying you only want to play with people who use bots, buy gold, and sweat the fun out of everything. Cool bro, enjoy!
Awesome! For me? days, weeks, months and I saw “maybe” 2 or 3 Gnomer runs no exp required in that time period. Everything else all day every day is 6/6 required.
It’s hilarious that you don’t see how clearly this reply proves exactly what they were implying about you. 
Maybe week 1 and 2.
We on week 88 now.
Find a group that you fit in?
Youre still not being kept from Gnomer.
Stop the “gatekeeping” meme
If this is gatekeeping, gatekeeping is good and complaints about gatekeeping are stupid and ignorable.
First, my alpha vs beta comment was a PvE comment, when I don’t even PvE, I was just trying to provide help. Then I get the random reply and now your reply implying I’m a beta acting like an alpha simply because I mentioned the words and put it in his head.
The only way I know how to reply to someone calling me a beta, is to call them out in game to prove I will turn them into a beta, aka beat them. But that is irrelevant because no one is even talking about PvP, it was just a counter to a troll.
But at least I’m attempting to reply to trolls. Most people will just ignore posts that like and yours.
I like playing devil’s advocate. As for my true thoughts, I think it’s wise to vet players for a PvE or PvP encounter if you are being serious about the encounter.
you’re gatekeeping people from YOUR raid, and that’s not allowed
No one can stop you from doing gnomer, only from joining their group.
Gatekeeping doesn’t exist.
noun
noun: gate-keeping
the activity of controlling, and usually limiting, general access to something.
If you think johnbobjoe is the epitome of control and general access to GNOMER then yes they are gatekeeping. Obviously your definition is so broad it includes basically everything. Based on your definition people are “gatekeepers” if they won’t date you, or be your friend, or go to your dance recital. This is so obviously wrong, but it also legitimizes gate-keeping as a good thing because your definition is so broad it encompasses A LOT of VERY GOOD things.
no. they can make their own group
no. they can make their own group