Garrosh > Sylvanas

Garrosh: “All I did, I did for the Horde!”

Sylvanas: “The Horde is nothing!”

Those quotes are canon.

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Garrosh was the a true Warchief, the only one the Horde ever had.

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Sure, garrosh was better than sylvanas.

Garrosh might have been a childish idiot whom had misgivings on what he considered to be horde, but he fought for what his idea of a horde was. So that puts him a step above Sylvanas (is that really saying much though? I don’t think it does.)

but Garrosh is still a whiny crybaby who could never take accountability for his actions, and blamed everyone around him for his own failures.

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He failed because the leaders of the other races turned against him before he could even have a chance to execute any of his plans. That’s why he kicked him out of the horde to begin with.

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Garrosh did what he did for what he envisioned the Horde to be, which was Orc Supremacist, technologically advanced, and imperial.

His intentions were good but that is it. Garrosh was such a poorly used character.

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They killed off a great character in a very crappy way.

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He failed, because he was a selfish idiot, whose own actions turned allies into enemies. His undoing 100% due to his own actions.

He’s an arrogant spoiled brat, that only got put where he was because Thrall liked his dad, he never grew past the simpering cry baby in Nagrand, to the very end.

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Sylvanas is tough love. She gon’ make you push out those last drop-reps. Garrosh will just tell you: “times change,” and then increase your rest time intervals to let you get a breather in.

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I hate The Horde but I feel Garrosh was a very staple character. I was disappointed in how they got rid of them/killed him off… In a crappy side quest.

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Selfish? Please.

The one called I just gave said everything. And reply a couple above this also explained all the leaders as other races turned against him before he could execute any real plans. Actually, they turned against him as soon as he received mantle of war chief. So other races actually never gave him a chance to do anything they just betrayed him through treason.

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Two words: Ogrim Doomhammer

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Yes, he was a Selfish, Arrogant, Greedy, narcissist, whom couldn’t take criticism, and blamed everyone but himself for his own short comings.

He believed his vision, and only his vision was the true way forward, despite having absolutely no idea what he was doing, constantly alienating allies around him, making stupid decisions left and right, and the fact he was only where he was at, because his daddy got him there.

He’s the poster child of someone being in charge of something they didn’t earn or deserve, and promptly running it into the ground. Not once, but twice.

Thrall’s biggest mistaken was to put that man-child in the warchief seat.

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Garrosh didn’t deserve the horde. Nor did he even want it.

But it was because all his allies wouldn’t even give him a chance and instead plotting behind his back that he didn’t achieve the popularity contest.

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He’s the one that drove people to hate him, but go ahead and keep coddling the dead baby man-child warchief. I’m sure he’s the only person to ever do something bad, and suffer the animosity of his peers. I’m sure he’s the only person whose ever been appointed a position and people not like that at all. :roll_eyes:

Poor, poor baby garrosh, the world was just so unfair and cruel to put him through the same things most of the other leaders had to go through. How dare they not immediately just bow down before baby garrosh.

Cry me a river, maybe you can go find your man-baby warchief in the after life and go lick his boots there.

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He didn’t have anything against the other races until Vol’Jin made threats and spit on the floor as the mantle was put on Garrosh. Cairne got mad when Thrall gave him a BTW, he then used the first evidence to challenge Garrosh without care if it was true. Sylvanas was of course being the phsyco we see now openly in front of him and when he called her out all the fan boys cried and wanted the mean orc gone. He never had anything wrong with elves or goblins who he even let in on his most sensitive information. Over all Garrosh got betrayed by other Horde races and he kept distance from letting them hold power unless proving themselves. His story is actually one of the finest wrote and to me beats out even Arthas.

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That’s the biggest crime to ever be committed in WoW’s History.

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I’ll agree with this. Garrosh was objectively better than Sylvanas.

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Garrosh got corrupted by Y’shaarj. Sylvanas is just crazy.

Nah the biggest crime is the Mag’har quest where the bronze dragon starts musing about how basically every Garrosh in every other timeline was a great hero of Azeroth, Greatest Warchief to ever live, and we just pulled the short straw and got stuck Gardolf HellStalin.

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And the crime is because of that we have to deal with this crap every week.