I make this a question if blizz shows how it evolves what do you want to do? .
It’s not that he’s a hater, but I don’t know, but he wants to collect Garrosh’s dust and make him come back or he wants to do a walk in time like the mega dungeon 10.1.5 .
I don’t know if it’s a speculation or that blizz intends to play with the nostalgia of the wow community.
Idk about ‘bringing him back’, but we will 100% see him in some kind of time-travel scenario. He’s too popular of a character to have him written off for good.
Arthas is another fan favorite, and we’re getting a little quest involving some time-travel thanks to Chromie, and we interact with the original Arthas before he became evil. Coming next patch.
He’s the Horde equivalent to Varian, and we’re getting a Varian cameo next patch lol, in that time-travel dungeon.
Don’t look at me like that, aha. 
People basically cheered when he had that little moment in Shadowlands.
I had no idea Varian was held in such massive disdain by the Alliance playerbase.
People didn’t hate Garrosh until the end of MoP and WoD, and even then, you still had people that liked him. Same as Sylvanas loyalists, lol.
Everything he did, was still for his own vision of what the Horde should be, and undoing the shame of his father drinking that fel blood (I guess it’s hard not to become your parents) and ultimately dooming the Horde. He could never forgive himself due to his name of being a Hellscream, it’s honestly tragic.
The Stonetalon questline back in Cata showed they originally had Garrosh to be an honorable character, and he kind of was, in his own twisted way, before they villainized him. When he ‘accidentally’ killed Cairne due to Magatha’s poison being secretly planted on his axe, he was outraged and banished Magatha from the Horde.
He’s always been a puppet to some degree, and felt his destiny was never his own, until he caused WoD, he’s kinda similar to Wrathion (who’s also responsible for WoD, he helped Garrosh escape) in that they both have messed up dads and have big shoes to fill, but Garrosh just chose the wrong side and got killed by us as a result.
I mean, I liked Garrosh, even though they hit him hard with the villain bat.
And people didn’t entirely enjoy Varian, due to him allowing the Horde to continue to thrive at the end of MoP, despite Jaina’s requests.
Obviously it couldn’t have happened anyway due to game mechanics, but people really wanted the Horde ‘dismantled’ after that, lmao. Varian just let them off with a warning.
He was just a better leader than Sylvanas was, after Thrall left.
People hated Garrosh from the moment he appeared in Burning Crusade.
He tried to MURDER THRALL and take over the Horde at the end of BC.
He actively sabotaged our efforts against the Lich King in Wrath.
He was the Worst General In History in Cataclysm and turned the entire Horde against him.
IN BURNING CRUSADE
Garrosh is boring, a horribly written character.
Idk, being Horde at the time, people kinda rallied around him lol. I guess most folks didn’t care.
In TBC he was just an emo orc that knew his past and wasn’t part of the Horde really until Thrall came to visit, and recruited him.
You obviously weren’t playing Horde.
This is from CATACLYSM. Not MoP. Cataclysm.
Yeah I remember that too lol, he was always an orc-supremacist and we had that whole Horde civil war, but still, people still liked him.
Horde just got a lot of story at the time compared to the Alliance, I remember. Even Horde story was the Alliance story, basically, with those MoP scenarios involving Vol’jin asking for help and whatnot.
And Cataclysm was just overall a Horde victory since many Alliance places got destroyed, people credited Garrosh for that.
The mana-bomb on Theramore was probably one of the highlights of Garrosh’s career, lmao.
I remember Metzen at Blizzcon being faced with a ton of angry Horde players asking him what the hell he was thinking. So no.
People also started hating Thrall because he ‘stole our kill’ on Deathwing in Dragon Soul, and became Azeroth’s own green jesus, and we had to attend his wedding, and all that other stuff. He got split apart and made to look weak, and we had to help him, around the time of Firelands if I recall.
It was a wild time in the WoW story.
Alliance players, sure. You’re just repeating their talking points.
I liked Garrosh so much I rolled an Orc warrior During MoP.
Best damned Warchief the Horde ever had.
This goes against their narrative. Look at how often they story the faction erasure and how badly they want to end the War in the Warcraft to have us deal with vapid blue/grey mobs.
I can guarantee you Garrosh being liked shocked them. Garrosh cared much for his own people and the legacy of his father. To the extreme where he barely tolerated non-Orcs, did not trust Sylvannas at all. He was a very realistic character you could put into any pro-nationalist figure.
So Garrosh had to lose to Thrall and had to be destroyed in the “Sin” tier of death. His legacy is that of a monster not a hero and this is pretty much the world philosophy of the modern west. It defines what is “evil” and intolerable which is actually good and healthy for a people. In this case the fictional Orc wonderland.
So it’s a matter of how you look at it. If you think a people have a right to exist then Garrosh wasn’t wrong. If you think a people don’t have the right to exist and must tolerate those who are not putting yours first then you’d think Garrosh was a monster.
You’re not alone in thinking their writing is motivated by their worldview. It’s abundantly clear to me.
You guys don’t actually think you’re fooling anyone, do you?
Well, you have to remember that in Cataclysm, Thrall was largely a neutral character since he stepped down from Warchief.
Horde players basically treated him the same as people treat Baine now, with disdain. He didn’t help us a whole lot, but we always had to go out and help him somehow.
We didn’t have cross-faction play on the same server, I don’t think we got that until WoD.
Faction pride was still at an all-time high. Thrall’s choices were just kinda seen as betrayal for no real reason.
Good use of that gif. LOL
I liked him because he was what an Orc SHOULD be, a grouchy, meat head that is prone to having rage fits and convinced of his greatness.
Thrall was always seen as weak by Orc standards, he was an apologist who sought peace and harmony.
That is barely even true with humans, much less an Orc.
Garrosh 2024