Fury down 20 spots this week

Uhh melee dps have the easiest job in raiding mythic.

Most mechanics they get to ignore.

Because the only bosses that are pure ST are Sikran and Princess and one of those two doesnā€™t have any public logs and the first one is still subject to RNG because you can go the entire fight without being targeted by a mechanic and can just tunnel the boss forever.

I know it all too well: my turn to ask you something. Did you know that if I press Avatar, recklessness, Thunderous Roar, Rampage, Odyns Fury, Bladestorm, specifically in that order, I can do more aoe dmg in a 5 second window then anything else in the game?

One more question for you? Did you know that the adds in Nerub Ar palace specifically spawn in a cadence that lines up perfectly with my ā€œdamage profileā€ (as you call it), so that I can consistently press those buttons on those adds and other classes canā€™t compete?

One more question, did you know that if the adds lived for 20 seconds or longer my aoe completely falls through the floor until my 45 sec cd (odyns fury) comes back? Crazy right?

Mate, my rotation is 4 buttons that are pressed in almost the same order. And if itā€™s aoe, I press whirlwind every four gcds. Get outta here with that bs. Noones rotation is hard.

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Based on your answers I would disagree.

Yes because fury has a burst aoe damage profile.

Yep. So why are you complaining about mythic st as a heroic raider when there are only two single target bosses?

So why are your logs slightly above average?

Or

Below average based on ilvl?

laughs in FrostDk and RetPaladin

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Since the ā€œit only affects Mythicā€ reason got raised, itā€™s worth noting that Fury is already below midpoint on Heroic in last weekā€™s logs, which continues the expected trend of falling behind other specs as they get their stronger-than-Furyā€™s 4-piece bonuses.

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Why you lyin? Itā€™s literally dead middle.

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Ttps://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/38#difficulty=4&sample=7&dataset=95

Arms is literally third.

Couldnā€™t possibly be because more people swapped to arms instead of staying fury.

People have had 4 set for over a week

Last I checked, 26 divided by 2 is 13 and 14 is right below that. My statement is accurate, regardless of whether you approve of the way it was used or not.

And other people also havenā€™t had 4-set for over a week. Neither of us have a way of determining what the ratio is. The only assumption we do have is that more are getting it. (This belies the fact that Furyā€™s set is mathematically one of the worst, again, similar to how DF season 1 played out.)

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I mean warriors literally have arms as #5.

Warrior is fine, there are classes that dont have the option to swap specs like they do. Those are the specs that need help, not fury.

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This is a weird take. Crit is the best stat for Arms but the worst for Fury. Even if I did want to swap to compete (I donā€™t have to because I still am in the top third of Heroic groups I join), swapping is not easy because it likely requires an almost entirely-different gear set besides the tier slots.

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Swapping gear is a helluva lot easier than rerolling an entire new class/toon.

Itā€™s in the middle. Your statement tried to imply it was bottom barrel and was not at all accurate.

No one parsing in the 95th percentile is going to not have 4 set.

Weird flex considering your only decent parse was silken court.

Do I need to share heroic single target logs?? Your logic is, if I havenā€™t rated on mythic difficulty then I should not have an opinion on my class performance in mythic. Dog water take. We all want to be killing bosses on mythic difficulty right? That should be the data that our judgment is based upon. Iā€™m complaining because we do lower single target then an augmentation evoker. Iā€™m complaining because only when this perfect situation exist that mobs spawn in intervals perfectly aligning with my cool down can I shine. Yetā€¦ Iā€™m not shining. Iā€™m getting beat out by other melee. Iā€™m still getting nerfed week after week. Here shortly, my target cap goes from 8 to 5. Why is it I do the worst single target in the game and I donā€™t do the best aoe And Iā€™m receiving nerfs? Why do I have a beast mystery Hunter telling me that itā€™s fine when I do less damage than an augmentation Evoker?

Because Iā€™m in a slightly above average guild. A lot of those kills. Iā€™m specialized into single target talents, despite being a class That does no single target. Thereā€™s many factors that count for parses. If I 100 on single target Iā€™m still dead last. Another dog water take for you to look into parses. If I 100 I still get beat by a 60 parsing beast mastery hunter?

Why are you here telling me my class is good when I play itā€¦ No fury warrior out here believes their class is good. Everyone knows itā€™s a meme and only does pad damage.

If you posted another thread talking about buffing BM Hunterā€¦ I would feel nothing and read over it. You read this thread And immediately thought you should argue about it??? What is your major malfunction?ā€¦ What goes to your mind to argue this when the data is right there?

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You do realize that there are several DPS that are below augmentation on Sikran, the only pure ST fight that has public logs, right? Fury isnā€™t a special case. Augmentation still relies on others for 50-60% of their damage so it is only a reflection of what happens when buffing the best people for the best situations.

Also, it is considered ethical padding when you are assigned to be the one to deal with burst AoE situations, which this raid has a lot of.

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1: heroic logs are irrelevant
2: I already linked heroic logs.

Your logs in heroic arenā€™t even good. So no when youā€™re below average I donā€™t consider your opinion valid.

Example. You want to link ST logs when fury isnā€™t a st focused spec.

Do you even understand how Aug does damage?

What does my avatar have to do with anything? You think BM is the only spec I play? Or the only class?

The difference is Iā€™m playing at a higher level and have a better understanding than you do.

I never said fury was good. Stop lying.

You have shown you donā€™t have the game understanding to comment on it.

Itā€™s why youā€™re getting emotional and focusing on ST which fury isnā€™t designed to excel at

Please you have no idea how to play a real furry warrior. Join us in arms Sister itā€™s the one true way!
:slight_smile:

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How often do we have purely ST fights? 2 in NP.

Itā€™s not a big deal.

To add on this the top to bottom average is <18%ā€¦

If you play fury well, you are still going to be one of the best people in the group. Stop being worried.

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Excuse me,

We canā€™t be speaking truths here.

Based on logs this is the true issue.

The people complaining would gain way more damage and performance by focusing on how to improve their own play instead of freaking out over tuning changes.

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Yesā€¦ And those are all major problems. All of those classes should be on the forums advocating for balance changes the same as I. All of these classes are being completely eclipsed by the ones at the top. Certain classes are beating others by more than 20% in single target damage. I donā€™t want to be at the top. I could stay at the bottomā€¦ As long as the gap is less than 5% from bottom to top.

I might as well have came to the forum complaining that my house is burnt downā€¦ Only for you to rush To the forums to sayā€¦ Well, three other peoples houses were burned down too.

Itā€™s actually not padding at all if itā€™s required for the boss to die.

Letā€™s pretend for a second that I parse grey. Letā€™s pretend Iā€™m the worst World of Warcraft player to have ever played the game. It still would have nothing to do with this argument. It would be an irrelevant, On a thread similar to this one, you will find the rank five warrior on most fights asking for buffs? . Does it mean more if he asked for them? Another dog water take. Iā€™m killing these bosses sometimes with only 10 people in the group. Iā€™m missing buffs entirely. Numerous things. Maybe a couple of my key presses are wrong. But itā€™s impossible to when your kills are sloppy and each kill occurs with only three people standing. But I donā€™t really care. I could literally not even play the game and still having stance in this argument. Iā€™m not trying to measure skill with you because Iā€™ve already parsed 100s and parsed 99s. Iā€™m not impressed by whatever you have. This is about data. This is about undeniable facts. Additionally, another comment like that and youā€™ll be reported for being inappropriate. Considering you have posted almost 3500 post on the forumsā€¦ I wouldnā€™t want to take away something that you consider a lot of fun. Do not be inappropriate on these forms please. If you canā€™t have a discussion without trying to be little someone else that donā€™t have the discussion. You already are trying to argue something that is in arguable.

You obviously donā€™t play warriorā€¦ Or you wouldnt be talking nonsense. You obviously have not pressed the cool downs in the sequence that I provided you and watched 30 seconds later as youre at the bottom of an Aoe encounter.

Again. Iā€™m not impressed that you wiped 40 times to the first boss on mythic difficulty and barely killed it. I do not care in the slightest. Iā€™m not discussing skill levels hereā€¦ It has nothing to do with this argument. If I was in a competitive guild that could even clear the raid on heroic maybe Iā€™d take the time to discuss it but I donā€™t and Iā€™m not.

You have shown that you canā€™t read.

Iā€™m chill as a cucumber. Youā€™re the one with the failing argument trying to tell me youā€™re a better player you parsed an 80. Youā€™re spending your time on the forums arguing with other players about whether or not their classes strong. 35,000 post and counting.

If itā€™s designed to excel at area of effect, then why are we getting Nerfed in area of effectā€¦ Weā€™re already not the best in aoe, and you claim thatā€™s what weā€™re designed to be excel at? If the entire raid is designed around area of effect, then why in overall damage is free warrior less than middle of the pack? Why is the number of a targets that thunderous roar and Odin fury hits being reduced from 8 to 5?

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Just to put end too whatever explainations you guys are doing.

Fury at the moment sucks, itā€™s going even get worst for Fury Slayer since they nerfed them AGAIN and gave us 30% damage buffs for bloodthirst and Ragingblow to ā€˜solve our single target damageā€™.

Just admit it the blizzard Dev in charge of Warriors is clueless as doodoo and has been dropping the ball almost all the time since Dragonflight.

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