I’m a returning player, 35 with two young kids and not much time to play. Ive been lvling a fury warrior which is my favourite and a ret paladin which I enjoy as well, but not as much as fury.
I’m debating whether I should abandon the fury warrior after the nerfs. I don’t have a tonne of time to dedicate to learning a new more complicated class. Although I mained mage back in the day.
Should I just keep playing fury? Will it be good again soon enough? I want to run low keys and try these new delves. Probably some raid finder…
So, one second you say it’s only good for padding then you say it is not padding when it’s required to kill the boss… So we agree that Fury is good for burst AoE and logs say that is what it is good at where the only outlier that pulls far ahead of them is Frost DK (who is also behind Aug on pure ST).
Do you want to go re-read what I said and refine this statement? “Below midpoint” is in no way inferring “bottom of the barrel” unless you are CLAWING for something to pick at. I’m having trouble believing that you are arguing in good faith if you’re going to make extreme assumptions like this.
The stats being talked about are across all parses, not 95th percentile (though in the case of Heroic there isn’t a lot of variance between the two right now).
Yeah I guess a 94 on Sikran despite everyone calling Fury’s single-target garbage isn’t “decent” (even though it is higher than the 89 on Silken Court which you cited).
Nope. It was implied no matter how much you want to argue.
The stats I linked are from the 95th percentile and the only logs that matter when speaking about class viability even though heroic logs are still irrelevant.
You mean the one where you’re carried by gear and parsed a 68 by ilvl? No with an ilvl drop that much it’s not actually decent and shows rotational errors
I commented your silken court kill because it’s the only fight you parsed purple by ilvl as well and …. It’s actually a fight with aoe.
Fury warrior can do all of those things. If that’s all you intend to do then do reroll. The only problem occurs when you try to join high-level keys. You do the worst target damage in the game. And if you’re not in one of your cool down windows, you do Some of the worst aoe in the game.
Yes. When the monsters have low HP and I can press two buttons to do all of my damage instantly whereas no one else can really do that. Yes that is good. Yes, this raid is designed around us. If the next raid has ads that live longer than five seconds, or any amount of single bosses we will be so far behind the rest of the classes no one will take one.
Keep dreaming bro. You’re reaching.
Linccstyle. https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/class-tuning/1973855/63
There’s another ocean of Warriors asking why their class is bad.
No, that’s not what credibility is. Credibility is when it’s backed by undeniable data. Which is what the logs show.
Do me a favor and click on the flag… Read the description where it says it’s inappropriate. That’s what you’re doing.
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Report it then. Report me for telling you to stop being disrespectful. You stating I can’t engage in a conversation about numbers on the screen because I’m in a guild that is feeling miserably is disrespectful. It’s inappropriate. And I find it offensive. And if you keep doing it, I will report you. as a matter fact, I already did anyway, keep doing it so I can report more posts.
Doesn’t matter because you don’t play one now. So you don’t understand the damage profile of the class.
To be honest, I made it up. The fact that you only killed that single boss means that your guild is also terrible. Second boss is free. The fact that you didn’t kill the second boss, either means that the second boss was too hard for your guild. Or the first boss was so hard that you put in so many attempts you didn’t feel like putting in attempts on the second one. I don’t really care to look, but that’s the only thing that is plausible.
Because it doesn’t perform well in singlet target and performs better than average in AOE Doesn’t mean it’s a single target focus spec… That means the design is dog water. Unless you directly work it blizzard you do not know the design intention of the specialization.
You parsing an 80 on a BM means you beat like three other people… Lol. But no dude we’re also impressed. I was talking to my buddies just now about it and they’re trying to get notes from your rotation right now.
Yep… So much in fact that it went from 1st to 21st place.
I have explained to you as has others showing you what the data shows. You just have no idea how damage profiles work which is why you’re looking at data and not understanding it.
I don’t get emotional enough to actually flag people unless it’s something about my family.
I’m not going to sugarcoat reality because of your feelings.
I’m just being courteous and letting you know false flagging is against tos.
I played one in amirdrassil. The damage profile hasn’t changed much considering I was actually looking at maining warrior for tww.
Yep a CE guild is in fact terrible.
lol you continue to prove you have no clue how logs work.
Getting friends to look at my logs so you can have an argument isn’t being emotional at all
I don’t really feel like looking and responding to every single line like I was. We went from 1st to 21st place. More nerfs are coming to my class, probably bringing us form 21st place to 25th. Keep talking damage profiles. I need to say nothing more. You parses greys your first two weeks you were in the raid and you have the audacity to talk to me about parsing. I was in the raid the first time at 600 ilvl right over a week ago. Your opinion on the matter is irrelevant. Last time I checked going from 1st to 21st was a monumental hit. Keep stating I don’t understand damage profiles or something stupid like that. I lack the pateints to keep arguing with you over how a number is less than another number and you argue about it.
Give you an example: when youve only got logs for 3 fights, and the first two are add heavy, and then the third is single target; once logs with that third fight go in, AoE centric specs will “drop” in rankings without any buffs or nerfs given out.
I could care less what you parse. Nor does what you parse have any impact on your argument. It is funny you telling me I can’t have an opinion on my class because I’m not in a guild where everyone is playing optimally to endorse good parses. If you look at your guild, everyone has a pretty good knowledge of how to play, Looking at logs I see many defensive, cool downs being used. Health stones being utilized. People are playing optimal specs. No one’s really trolling with some stupid class that is under performing. Has intention of killing the boss. Everyone is playing accordingly, which allows you to parse.
I’ve been looking at Warcraft logs for over 10 years. Please spare me.
Correct. But you and the other guy don’t even know why we dropped the 21. The ultimate rebuttal to the Warriors that are whining for buffs is out there, but you guys are actually the ones that don’t understand Warcraft logs. Neither one of you have a clue why we dropped from 1 to 21. No balance changes happened over the week. But U2 don’t legitimately know what the logs are based off of.
Because fire has a goated cleave profile which lets it shine on a lot of high end mythic encounters. It’s not the definitive top mage spec but on fights were you expect cleave it’s ahead by enough to make up for lacking st.
