First of all let me say, I completely support the plan to hit the RMT and limit boosting gameplay where everyone is just afk in dungeons being boosted.
Today while running regular slave pens on my lvl 63 mage, my group encounters several packs through one of those fearring rays, were killing them and the mobs end up zergining me and my healer, I go to cone of cold … nothing… frost nova to try and save us, nothing works. I enjoy the controlly aspect of the frost mage and blizzard has essentially nerfed it so hard its useless in dungeons now.
How can i bring my class’s unique utility when my own classes abilities have been removed? You dont see warriors going to attack or taunt and the game being like ohhhh sorry its more than 30 seconds, cant do that anymore.
Theres gotta be a better way than this! Just nerf the EXP and leave the rest alone =( like … over 25 mobs and u get less exp or something, or like after 20 mobs, the slow gets diminishing returns and spread out evenly like blizzard damage does …
First of all let me say, I completely support the plan to hit the RMT and limit boosting gameplay where everyone is just afk in dungeons being boosted.
Today while running regular slave pens on my lvl 63 mage, my group encounters several packs through one of those fearring rays, were killing them and the mobs end up zergining me and my healer, I go to cone of cold … nothing… frost nova to try and save us, nothing works. I enjoy the controlly aspect of the frost mage and blizzard has essentially nerfed it so hard its useless in dungeons now.
How can i bring my class’s unique utility when my own classes abilities have been removed? You dont see warriors going to attack or taunt and the game being like ohhhh sorry its more than 30 seconds, cant do that anymore.
Theres gotta be a better way than this! Just nerf the EXP and leave the rest alone =( like … over 25 mobs and u get less exp or something, or like after 20 mobs, the slow gets diminishing returns and spread out evenly like blizzard damage does
This is a tank problem, both on threat and positioning.
tank problem…threat
and inferred is tank positioning the mobs because even if all three mobs are on the healer…good chance you kill that pack of three rays. Easy dungeon. instead the tank didnt pull them back and a dps got feared into the next pack. And the threat problem (see above) caused you to be overwhelmed.
Are mages nerfed? yes. Good.
But this is a tank problem.
Strong disagree, this was a tank problem, then it became a mage problem. The whole point of existing as a frost mage is to have that kind of control over mobs. The expectation that a mage’s abilities would work on normal mobs in a normal dungeon being run by a traditional group is entirely reasonable.
We said when the change was made this was a terrible change, and it was only going to cause unintented side effects.
People leveling characters through boosting is seriously not that bad of an issue to justify butchering an entire class and making ridiculous changes.
especially changes that you have absolutely zero information about, one of their own pillars was about making sure gameplay mechanics are easy to read and understand.
Then they add mechanics that completely subvert class abilities and how they normally function, because they want to combat boosting, and it has no indications, no warnings, there is no information on these changes or how they function.
This is why people do not take blizzards “We’re preserving the spirit of classic” nonsense when it comes to making drastic unwanted and unpopular changes to the game, because they don’t even follow their own pillars they posted, why in the world do you think they actually stand for anything? It’s all PR garbage.
The slow/root immunities and movement bonuses are reset whenever the mob gets hit by any other form of crowd control. If anything, these changes validate the use of more classes utility kits instead of just bottle-necking everyone into relying on solely frost mages.
Breaking CC mechanics shatter that spirit of classic that was apparently so important to save. I don’t know if we’ll get Dual Talent during pre-patch, but I don’t imagine they’ll make the QoL decision to make it cost 10g instead of 1000g so there will maybe be more available healers instead of the leveling slog causing a drought before the great big march of DKs.
Your comment is non sequitur. I’m not talking about players in a group waiting on other group members to perform their duties within the group as part of natural group gameplay; I am talking about a player in a group not being able to use his own relevant and needed abilities all of a sudden because the game programming gates him from using them until some other groupie does something that removes the programming gate.
You mean all multiplayer content in WoW? Tanks depend on healers/dps to excell at tanking, dps depend on tanks/healers to excell at dpsing, and healers depend on tanks/dps to excell at healing. Your hyperbole doesn’t help your cause.
imagine after 30 seconds in a fight u couldnt FD… and i said ooo sorry u just need to watch ur threat bro. sorry ur class ability designed and used for the last 15 years? Nahhh thats gone. sry nub get better
