What are your thoughts? Do you guys think frost mages will be good again?
Um, they won’t even rune it in. There’s better runes.
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No lawl. Frost has far far deeper problems than just FFB.
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I’m going to be trying it out in pvp at least but not expecting much.
Played against a frost mage in AB again. He had utility. Not much else i have to contribute.
I’ve already got my frost gear and changed my spec to frost to maximize on FFB. I don’t think it will outperform Fire or Arcane, but I also don’t think it’ll be dead last anymore.
SOD has turned into instant cast casters and hard casting Frostbolt/FFB and praying for a snare/chill effect is unrealistic when you literally cannot get the cast itself off
Frost mages instant cast is lance and it does decent instant damage 400-600+ but they have to be frozen first and they aint never frozen
You have to hard set up freezes w/ nova or pray for a 15% proc so you can lance for half the damage of the other caster instants added in SOD
EDIT - Increase the FOF proc chance and frost may have a better standing chance in pvp
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The best PVE setup you don’t have enough points to put in for threat reduction on fire or frost side.
And in pvp everyone has to much mobility and damage for a 3.5 second cast to be competitive now. Probably be okay in 1v1 duels against melee.
This Blizzard
it’s so dumb that pvp is based solely around instant casts 
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I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again,
Ice lance needs a better sp coefficient or needs to do quad damage versus frozen
Without that frost will continue to do twice as much work for competitive damage
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Missile barrage is still better even as a frost mage 20% chance of a free spell vs 15% chance on brain freeze and it lets you take Spell power as a feet rune.
So what im thinking is
- brain freeze needs to be changed to 25-30% proc chance
- Ice lance needs a base damage buff
- Icy Veins needs a shorter cooldown
- Fingers of frost needs a higher proc chance as well
otherwise you get better mileage out of the other runes.
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I agree with everyone here, frost is the weakest pvp spec I’ve tried yet. But I was surprised no one mentioned the joke that is Ice Barrier.
438 damage, Four Hundred Thirty Eight. “So I can get free uninterruptable casts on muh opponents, HUZZAH.” Then you actually use it and realize that stops about 20% of most other classes instant casts damage abilities, the bubble pops (excuse the pun). Then they follow up with another 1200 damage instant cast ability and you die. Is it even improved by frost damage? It doesn’t feel like it is.
I know, just respec, but I’m sick of that excuse. Where’s my MM hunters, 2H enhance shammies, frost mages, anything but a mut rogue?
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Ice Barrier was made for a diffferent… game.
Yes, but only 10%. Even in full Naxx gear i don’t think IB manages to break 1k absorb.
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they gave shadowform an insane free buff… no reason why they can’t help ice barrier
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Yea I agree. I picked a mage bc I like to cast spells. But right now in PvP mages are just running around like a maniac insta casting living bomb on everyone.
I might get flak for this, but I think living bomb should be a 1.5sec cast. That wouldn’t affect pve but change PvP. We need to tone down all these insta casts across the board
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yeah basically every instant cast rune spell should be made 1.5 sec cast… that would go a long way to helping pvp
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GCD is 1.5 seconds so I am assuming this is a joke/bait:p?
Frostfire spec is quite good, but to really get use of it you need 10 points in fire to get ignite, even though you put most of the talent points in frost, it’s considered a fire spec since getting ignite considers it as fire mage on logs. I’ve actually tried a new spec recently where i put 18 in fire, so i can get the 5 scorch up, if you don’t have another fire mage this seems like the play, and i’m still able to get ice shards and piercing ice with 13 points, I haven’t really tried it in a high parsing raid just pugs, but i think i can do some decent dmg in a high parsing raid. I use brain freeze rune. I was doing shatter with the 0/10/21 spec i had fingers of frost, but it feels a bit worse than just doing 15% crit rune. It’s nice seeing those 1.7-1.8k frostfire crits though, also instant frostfire procs are pretty nice and consistent.
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an instant ability is still much better in pvp than a 1.5 sec cast…
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