Sounds like a l2p issue. Sure you don’t see many but that’s just cause unholy is insane. Frost isn’t bad at all I wouldn’t say they do dumb damage too.
from someone whos been 2600 in 2s and 3s last couple seasons as frost you are irrelevant outside of pillar. inside of pillar if you want to maximize ur dmg and pressure you need to make sure you don’t get peeled on your “go” ww/dk is the best comp since leg sweep chill streak is such a devastating combo but as soon as someone trinkets disarms or trinket blind, your waiting for that next 2 min go again. outside of your “go” your a chains of ice bot in most situations. if you don’t win by 2nd go its pretty grim. that’s my best advice for the spec I’m no r1 or god but doesn’t really take one to understand how to play frost. as much as ppl will meme saying 3 button class (like most melee these days) its very fun and super enjoyable when you win. btw 2s is kinda a self report as frost most every class you’ll find in 2s will take you out of the game during pillar. most anyone with a mes WA package or brain to see pillar on ur nameplate will know when to piss you off. good luck on your frost adventure <3
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don’t think this part scans
Can anyone tell me what % of your dmg comes from your 4pc as a frost dk? I don’t have it yet. How hard do the glacial advances hit?
its been like this all of SL
This guy thinks otherwise 
On a side note, I’m not a fan of current Frost playstyle either. Scuff your go and you’re just useless. The spec has no tools
DF Frost talent tree looks cool though
2 charges of empower rune weapon and chill streak being available in the regular talent tree
Cross your fingures I guess
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Frost is like arms. Its still strong, but the other spec is just better.
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They definitely need to buff Frost Strike and Howling Blast primarty target at the very least.
Could probably also buff physical Obliterate and Remorseless Winter.
So basically everything except Frost Obliterate.
Tone down Empower Rune Weapon and Pillar a bit if necessary.
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I wish I could find them when I’m queuing to play with, the Frost DK toolkit provides the perfect storm of control and cleave support that Arcane needs.
brother what
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I tried killing an afflock as frost…he just smiled and drained life while I was dead in less than 5 secs. Frost is garbage.
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Hard disagree with buffing Obliterate and remorseless winter, the damage is very good.
As for Frost Strike/Howling Blast, it is extremely weak true, and our frost fever damage is significantly higher than it. I always found it odd that frost dots is stronger than unholy dots, when unholy, by design, is supposed to be the rot spec (think shadowcleave days in legion)
The 1 minute go that DK has is good, the problem is, you often times have to use a defensive to ensure you get the full value if you want to get a kill against a good team (AMS offensively, for example)
They definitely couldn’t be bothered to do anything in season 4 (whereas, they made a strong effort to balance ret sustain with slight nerf to burst) We’re just waiting until DF to see if the spec will make a proper comeback.
idk why we keep trying to recreate the wheel. bring frost dk to what it was in WoD and its fine.
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I got unbanned just in time to say this is how it’s supposed to work.
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You’re saying every class should just be a 1 minute burst machine with nothing to do in-between?
Should sustained DPS not be a threat? Should your in-between kit not give you interesting choices to make, offensively and defensively?
Should every other spec be pared down, not weaker ones brought up?
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No I’m saying that when you mess up and are punished for it that’s a good thing.
Not every class should be the same but that’s how frost dk is right now.
When you get the combo off correctly it does gigantic damage I think people are a lil dramatic about frost performance
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I think he started playing in Shadow Lands
Anyways I agree that scuffing your go should not reward a kill
What I’m saying is Frost just becomes a chains of ice spamming machine between CD’s. You don’t have much tools. You’re just delaying the game.
If you like the playstyle, good for you buddy
I think that having to save grip and every single one of your abilities for that one kill opportunity is boring AF
It’s just an opinion anyways. You do your thing buddy
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what a dumb read. nobody said every class. he said this class. as it exists currently, possessing the tools to win a whole game with a successful burst
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Yeah people are being “dramatic” about frosts performance.
3v3 spec distribution below -
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Play with disc priest to give u dark arc for every go and mm hunter with kyrian circle and scatter shot off target on ur double blind go and you got urself a very disgusting comp
Or play with an hpriest and ww/ret for perfect triple cross every go with unhealable burst damage and just run in between
Fdk is very competitive if you just play to survive in between your unhealable 1 shot but this takes coordination which most people aren’t capable of