Anyone have a build for the best experience in BGs or world PvP as frost?
Seems like everyone plays unholy for PvP, so it is hard to find good resources on this.
I won’t be doing arena.
you gotta pick your own talents for your playstyle. there is no cookiecutter build for DK
Yeah, that’s true.
Some more specific questions then:
1H vs 2H?
1H: Killing machine procs are fantastic and having two runes is great. Might be better with more uptime?
2H: Bigger hits from abilities. Might be better with less uptime?
Obliterate or not?
I have seen some pretty weak obliterate numbers as I have been levelling. It does not benefit from killing machine, whereas howling blast does and for the same time cost. Obliterate has 6 talents dedicated to it that may or may not be better spent elsewhere.
Looking for some input on these two questions.
im no pro DK but from my previous experiences of pvping not at high levels mind you, i like unholy. personally i enjoy wpvp and bg’s too. unholy has a great kit to it imo. this is what i intend to be at 80. i am curious to see at 80 if obliterate will be more viable than scourge strike though. if i remember right it is but time will tell i guess and some guides will help
World Pvp? go play on Grobbulus then, cuz it’s the ONLY server that has both faction playing at the same time.
Which in my opinion is the worst part of the current Wrath Classic situations, cuz I LOVE World PVP with all my heart and soul, but I play on Benediction 
Cuz West US is a bit laggy for me… OHHH WHAT A BAD LUCK I HAVE!
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Yeah, for a better experience you go unholy. :3
Right, I kid. But there is truth to it.
Frost has a niche place as quick burst dmg, unholy is more consistent pressure and control (pet stun) and survivability (amz, pet sac)
Or everyone is in it to pad meters, yeah.
I used to rbg in frost but that was obviously a later xpac. When howling blast had no cd it was just nuts.
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Dual wield two slow weapons. Oblit and most abilites go off weapon damage.
One Razorice, one Fallen Crusader.
Prio Frost Strike on high armor targets, Oblit clothies.
Killing machine does not affect Obliterate though:
Your melee attacks have a chance to make your next Icy Touch, Howling Blast or Frost Strike a critical strike.
Unless I am missing a glyph or talent that does that?
Okay sorry, wrong era. 
That happens in Cata, KM is on Oblit instead of Howling.
Either way, Obliterate teh clothies. 
Strong weapons will help for sure.
Go look up Whitenoise/Aihpos (same person) on youtube.
They did both arena and bg’s as Frost.
This is also a myth with Frost. 2h and DW will hit relatively the same baseline. I have had higher Obliterates with DW though, but for the most part this damage disparity is just a complete myth. Not to mention DW gets an extra runeforge.
You will use Obliterate, there is no way around it since Howling Blast has an 8 second CD.
You will want to get 2.6 second 1h weapons as well.
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Thanks for the tip about Whitenoise! This video was particularly helpful:
How to Frost DK PvP [2] by Aihpos 3.3.3+ - YouTube
Crazy that 10 year content is now fresh again
I went with the BG spec and had 2 x 2.6 speed weapons in my bags thankfully
I hear it is almost always up too. 15% strength is nice.
On a pale horse seems awfully tempting over in unholy though, might have to try that out at 80.
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