Frost 2h 2% buff

Classes Death Knight
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So now all this means is I can maybe stop chasing 1h weapons to get replace my 213 2H. Really lack luster buff and kind of salt on the wound.

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Honestly, I am actually OK without seeing any nerfs. I already embraced the fast pace meta…so if FDK can be brought up to a better level to truly compete as itself, I’m happy.

But obviously the 2% is “bleh”. We’ll see if it changes!

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You’ll get smacked silly in PvP as DW - you’re aware there’s more to the game than PvE, yeah?

DW in arenas is more of a BuT mUh RoLePlAy!!! I guess that makes a good trade-off?

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Wait, does 2h do damage in pvp all of a sudden or something? Guess what DW does, increases chill streak damage the only thing people have said does damage and that it actually relies on… so whats the deal?

And dont say “pvp and you will know” you guys apparently pvp and the explanation that you give doesnt make sense. DW is not a “but my roleplay” its the main focus on the spec even in pvp. I never seen the amount of complaints in BFA over frost pvp than I have in the few months that SL has been live and all you could do was DW then.

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This is a f-----g joke LMFAO. 2h Frost is currently 20% behind Unholy which isnt even the top dps spec. 2% is NOTHING. Its still down at the very bottom with Sin Rogue, Frost Mage and Fury Warrior.

OH WAIT ALL THOSE CLASSES ARE GETTING 4X THE BUFF 2H FROST IS GETTING.

2% changes literally nothing. 2H Frost will still be the absolute worst dps in the entire game. Even if they bumped it to 10%, 2H Frost would still be sub-par. It doesn’t fix the trash AoE, it doesn’t fix the junk talents, it doesn’t fix anything.

MAYBE if 2h had Razorice passively in addition to a 5% buff, 2H Frost would be in a good spot. But as is, 2% is nothing more than confirmation that Blizzard knows the spec sucks.

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Does more up front burst than DW.

It’s a burst meta. How many times have we covered this topic?

I would guess see response #1. BFA was my least played xpac so I cannot speak confidently about it.

All I heard was stories about how long the games could be.

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Heh watch out UH dks time to reroll to frost (lol…)

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Idk where you getting your info but 2hander in pvp is also a joke. 200 extra damage on obliterates wont make you good all of a sudden.

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Its 20, not 200 lol

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It’s comical hanging out on the frost dk discord and everyone is like “its fine look at my parses”. Thats cool you are parsing high but can you seriously not see how behind this is compared to UH? Switching to UH isn’t an options for me because I put my ashe into my BIS legendary.

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Yea I kinda laughed the other day when the charts got posted on WoWHead and Biceps was saying “Frost is completely fine”. I can go smack a dummy for 5 minutes and watch as no matter what setup I run as Frost, I cannot get within 15% of Unholy. 2H Frost is consistently 20% behind. Granted DW is better, but not enough to even come close to bridging that gap. And thats just on a dummy so I can’t even use Soul Reaper.

Perfect example. On my most recent Denathrius kill, I screwed up bad and parsed like a 73 with Unholy and did almost 200,000 more damage over the course of the fight than I did as 2H Frost the previous week parsing a 82. Fight length variance was only 3 seconds as well.

It aint a L2P issue. The people parsing 90%+ as Frost know exactly what they’re doing.

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2% lmao what the fk is this going to do other than nothing?

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This “buff” is the biggest slap in the face frost can receive… what a joke… a literal bandaid that does nothing to the spec overall… now we will get nothing

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By you know, actually playing in arenas. I also agree that 2h could use help, but the gaps between levels of joke-ness is greater between 2h and dw. DW is meme levels.

I’m going to say to you the same thing you said to me;

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I want to give everyone some hope by relaying this…

The 2% is likely to change. Good news is we are not on the chopping blocks for nerfs and the closer we can close that gap the better. We are obviously underperforming hence why the spec being looked at so we’ll see what they come up with.

I don’t think anyone is happy with a measly 2%, however it does make me excited for Tuesday.

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And you said that burst sucks over and over and over and over and that Frost has to be carried. DW would increase the ability that everyone says does more damage which would be chill streak. Increased by 15% on one target at the very least.

I dont think I would really take your word on the state of pvp since you have done nothing but complain about it.

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how much were the nerfs in total for might and oblit?

2% is a joke why are we thinking that will help at all

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Its a 2% increase for just using a 2h and its the same for monk at the moment.

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Because it does.

It’s still better than DW.

Hard concept to grasp, I know.

Nah but we should take yours, who hasn’t stepped foot into the arena.

Makes sense. You spend more time on here than you do playing the game.

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How do you know that its better than DW? Have you actually tried DW because with how you talk about it you havent touched it ever.