It doesn’t really change anything for ferals my boy. Rip / Rake is just a DPS loss over shred / FB.
Classic Era still exists. Stay there.
That is a valid points, you are right.
My concern are Warlocks, as they had to rotate with 8 debuffs a lot, usually just one WL debuff was allowed, elemental or shadow. Agony and Co. were never used, until they upped the cap to 16.
Warlocks can really change the outcome of a raid in early Vanilla, they have a lot of raid wide benefits and the debuff limit was holding them back a lot.
That being said, I see your point, we also had that issue a lot that certain debuffs were kicked off the ledge and this can be pretty annoying, also if you have to hold back with bleeds & co. as a melee class.
Because of this, adjusting the bosses may be the perfect solution to this.
I am sure it only works in the main cities, but not in dungeons. I doubt we will see it before the pvp system is implemented, as a lot of folks did argue that they want to have a PVP and PVE spec.
But I would even be fine with the class trainer thing, it´s not that I am changing it every hour or so.
Last time I checked, Era has no dual spec. So the museum piece is still alive.
Classic Fresh is just like SOD / SOM, a new classic experience for people that want to transition through the earlier expansions again.
To be fair, folks have done this before dual spec already.
If you heal a dungeon and someone as a DPS or tank, rolls for your item, just leave the group. Let them find a new healer
Those people existed long before Dual spec arrived.
What we got in 2019, was already not the original.
I would love a 1.1 WOW, I really do. But I doubt we will ever see that happening. Too many people would not understand this game.
But 1.12. never was the original Vanilla, having Dual Spec is actually the first postive thing, with instant mail that they brought over from the TBC / WOTLK version.
GG no re .
Very happy, thanks. Hope you enjoy your era server, bye!
You do understand that the reason so many are in favor of changes such as dual spec or the debuff cap removal is because the Vanilla client had MASSIVE holes in it, right?
You can be a purist all you want, that is your right. But you do not have the right to be intellectually dishonest with yourself or others and openly declare that untouched 1.12 Vanilla was a flawless game that should be #NoChanges forever.
Debuff limit good
Dual spec bad
I never said it was FLAWLESS, I said it was what it was. Playing around the challenges and hurdles WAS the game.
I’m with the other poster, at this point add player housing and arenas and LFG
the people who are the most upset are those who gate the game from others, gas light about rmt, and are upset about the possibility of another class dethroning the brown boy meta. so many people want to do more than sit in the back seat and watch watch warriors melt raid bosses. or watch stay at home guild masters instill their will w tf hor and atiesh.
imagine if paladins and druids were actually viable tanks, ele shadow boomkin were viable dps. all this crying about dual spec and debuff limits and LFD tool that helps people FIND GROUPS instead of spamming trade chat for 40 minutes. these same people standing in the way of all of this are the main ones with pocket 5-40 man rosters and dont have to stop or wait, they can just zoom.
the toxic gated community nonsense in this game is its biggest downfall. let people play the game the way they want. most of these changes were limitations of the technology of the time. no ones is crying over 50k pop servers, why are we crying about ui elements that help assemble groups faster.
if you are upset about these changes, you are the toxic player alot of people want to circumvent in the first place. that is why you are upset. your crummy little empire is slipping away and soon you wont be the only one with all the shinys looking down at others.
evolve or die.
Hey darling I got the change you requested.
You’re welcome.
DUAL SPEC IS HERE! yayayyy
debuff limit removal is a fine change i don’t care about that
i hope the raids get a corresponding boost in difficulty of course
Eyr did you switch accounts???
They werent intentionally coded challenges to make the game harder.
Dual Spec wasnt conceived of until Wrath, even then the coding had to be implemented.
The debuff cap was a straight limitation of the coding itself to be able to track a certain # of debuffs. This was not “added in to give additional challenge” this was the best they could figure out how to do at the time.
A challenge is an INTENTIONALITY placed hurdle. These were limitations of both coding function and coding knowledge at the time.
in the words of the new president elect: “WRONG”
SoD already exists m8. Go play that.
Doesn’t care about changes that actually change the game, only cares about the thing most people want, oh yeah we got a contrarian here
Forever box.
also man the P server that your claiming are the pure version of the game. Was full of changes still.
Great news to you. Theres no gdkp but they still can buy AH things and BoE. But gdkp was the money maker.