I think there is a point where it makes sense for certain races not to be a certain class because of how scorned it is even though I like the idea of any race being any class because there have to at least be -some- outliers. I think doing very specific quests that allow you to, for example, create a Night elf warlock or something could be a fix to this. I just don’t think it should be baseline. I can see Night elf shamans, I have a harder time seeing Night elf warlocks.
Frankly, it’s weird that Cenarius doesn’t know Shamanism.
The strongest objection to undead Paladins is and always has been that it’s an aesthetic and cultural clash with who the Forsaken are and what they represent. Physiological objections were always subject to Blizzard just changing the rules on a whim, but those kinds of aesthetic clashes will be harder for them to ignore.
True, until Calia Menethil rules them as Queen because Blizzard cannot take the hint that Forsaken players don’t want that, and Calia is essentially the best possible chance they have to continue to propagate their race now that they don’t have Sylvanas and her Val’kyr.
Doesn’t physical contact between Turalyon and Alleria cause pain?
Only if Alleria is in Void Form.
Undead Paladins could work as some kind of Alliance allied race, because the real problem with undead Paladins is the idea of a Holy Knight in Shining Armor Sworn To Defend The Weak hanging out in Neo-Naxxramas building Abominations and braining unarmed civilians over the head with shovels.
And also, I don’t like the precedent that would be set by the growing agitation among a lot of fans to make an undead version of literally everything for the Forsaken.
I take it back. This paragaraph doesnt seem to be about world building but about elements as in the elements like Light, Void, Death, Life etc. This seems to be an extension of how rhe Shadowlands book was suppose to tell us more about the relation between these forces but didnt really make it clearer.
Yeah just opened the article, it’s implying there’s a Forge/Zereth for each cosmic force
This sucks
This really sucks
I don’t want to play a Marvel remake of Tolkien
This isn’t cool or fun, this isn’t the Point
They’re not going to propagate their race anymore.
We’ll have to wait and see on this one, I think. I won’t be surprised if that is a lore hole they’re left in for a good long while though. How long did it take for a replacement leader for the Darkspear Trolls to be decided upon? Heck, have they even made that call yet?
Rokhan lacks a unique model still so as far as I’m concerned the answer is no
What about the Orc leader?
I thought Thrall got pushed into that role?
Oh yeah, how could I forget?
They’re not going to propagate their race anymore because Calia is a good person who doesn’t want to propagate undeath. Sylvanas is now apparently a good person who also wouldn’t want to propagate undeath. The only in-universe people who ever treated propagating undeath as a good thing were villains. More specifically the Jailer and his minions/dupes.
There’s even less reason to propagate undeath now since we know everything there is to know about the Shadowlands and the afterlife so you don’t even have the “don’t you want to live forever” excuse.
It’s not like undead are going to vanish overnight. They can stick around for as long as WoW keeps going without bolstering their numbers. Their inability to reproduce isn’t a problem for the game or for the setting. It’s only a problem to select players who for some reason are troubled by the fact that undead probably won’t have any significant presence on Azeroth long after WoW ends.
Last note on the interview. They were asked if things in books(like edge of night) would ever be added in game.
Ion says they are trying to be more attentive. then talks about warcraft’s past(around Cata) when someone like Cairne could die and how you wouldnt have know he died unless you read the book, he then says they try to add as much to the game as possible(like adding ingame books or exploring character motivations more ingame) but that these elements are not important to understanf a major plot/quest. If you need to read a book to understand it, it means they failed the narrative(I’m paraphrasing)
Oh and he was being coy about whether nathanos will be in 9.2 or not.
Nathanos will come back and he’ll still be a prick, resulting in a schism in the Forsaken between those under Calia who want to move closer to the Alliance and be good boys and girls and those under Nathanos who want to be edgelord teenagers forever, paving the way for Lightforged Undead as an Alliance allied race.
So, they have no plans to better explain the lore in the game. That’s not good to hear.
Sort of, basically business as usual. Important lore happens ingame, less important/less game relevant lore will be in ingame books/optional interactions/paid books.