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And what will generate these queues?

Do you know the grouping of servers for cross realm battle groups? Do you assume if it isn’t all realms joined that it won’t be majority ally realms v majority horde realms?

If the total xrealm ratio is 55:45, then at most only 5% would be in a queue. Further, the imba is relative to time and the closer to balance, the lesser the queue.

Additionally, if it’s only Horde that want to PvP overall, then ratio is completely irrelevant. It could be 98:2 A:H, but if Ally don’t queue then Horde will wait. That said, I don’t presume to know a statistically significant correlation between faction choice and likelihood to engage in PvP.

Since you have the data on this, please provide it.

Relative server imba does not impact queues. How long is a horde queue on Illidan? About as long as my ally queue on Moonguard.

These are xrealm battlegroups, if it includes PvE servers with PvP servers - like the structure of retail does - and PvE servers are supposedly more Ally bias, then the ratios balance. Even if not, there are Ally bias PvP realms, such as Faer and HS, that bring us closer to balance on a xrealm basis.

The principal complaint on imba doesn’t stem from BGs, it stems from open world gameplay.

Further, I’m not a faction - as an individual it doesn’t bother me if I do something while waiting. To others, maybe it does.

I’ve said everything I’ve needed to say about this topic which is OFFTOPIC to this thread.

You are the cause of your own suffering. It’s not on blizzard to implement any kind of lock out system they’ve never to my knowledge implemented in the past to insure their is an appropriate ratio of players on both sides of the fence.

Enjoy your future wait times. As you’ve said “it’s no biggie”.

Can you describe why you expect massive queue times in WoW: Classic BGs in xrealm battlegroups when retail servers have worse imba and no queues.

It makes no sense and you haven’t responded to this point.

The main topic here has been balance, seems pretty in line but /shrug.

Because I’m Nostradamus.

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Yup, that’s what I thought. Good chat! I hope to see you in BGs so I can /poke you.

“there is no wait time in BfA”

  • does a quick search and finds a thread where horde (go figure) are complaining about wait times in march of this year…

This is generated due to the removal of exp locked players from brackets, which is not a function in Classic, nor relative to balance.

Ally in same thread stating Ally observe the same issue.

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I didn’t say that, but okay.

Also in the same thread

“Queue times have always been 10+ minutes for Horde. Hopefully the updates over the next couple days will have a fix.”

So if it’s more then ten minutes for everybody, I would take a stab that horde get to +10 minutes ontop of that.

At any rate, feel free to tell me how wrong I am during your impending que times.

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So once again, that is a supposition that you are making. The individual that is experiencing it states “for everybody,” you’re simply assuming it’s longer for Horde. Do you have data or experience on that?

Xrealm battlegroups help mitigate faction imba in the context of BGs, it’s what it was designed and implemented for. It also will be a function in Classic. There is no precedent to know what relative queues will be by faction for BGs, or which realms will be grouped.

All that said, this entire thread has been discussing server balance, not BG queue time likelihood by faction.

Make no sense Benediction can transfer to Anathema, but you only can do it every hour!

I’ve wanted to get away from this off topic now for 5 posts but you really have this desire to get the last word in.

I’ve said my piece on this ages ago. You disagree and that’s ok. When you read future posts complaining about faction imbalance on pvp realms and those complaining just happen to be horde, It’s not a coincidence…k?

Common sense tells me where this goes, but if you need to have it play itself out, that’s fine with me. None of this affects my game play even in the slightest.

Ends convo

Misquotes and quotes random thread.

Initiates red herring while simultaneously stating “before battle grounds are even released”.

/10charlol

You won’t. I’ve done it. It’s so far down on my radar as things I wanna play in this game.

What i can see is this:
We can blame blizzad. The only thing that they want in the moment, IMO, is too remove layers and, maybe, increase the population in low pop servers (im not sure…). Someone, in some Topic, said that blizzad made Lock faction creation/xfer a long time ago. But, in a user perspective, this would been injust too the player that want too roll a specific faction (i Just want Alliance. In the beggning, my only choice was timezone. Now, if possible, i roll where Alliance is in disadvantage.)

Next point. We can blame the players. Truly, the mentality of the player is to Go where his faction is winning (with advantage). Lets suppose blizzadd open xfers per faction only, like: massAllyserver to massHordeserver. Do you think that the Ally player Will Go to that horde server, or the opposite (horde to massAlly)? What type of incentive need to give to that player to make the change?

Next point. Taking in consideration BGs, problaby wont haver inssue, if BGs going to launc w/ xrealms (if don’t, lets see How blizzard or the playerbase Will handle it…). Now, in consideration to wpvp, this is obviously a serious problem (unless, u know, they use xrealms in the zones…). Not Just wpvp, as well wbosses.
Maybe wpvp is optional. “If you have problems with wbosses, Just rerrol in a server where your faction has advantage” some Will say. Lets create already monofaction servers
… Where your do wpvp against npcs, this Will be fun… I think…

Final point, important to this thread. Did u guys see the helps from some players saying that r looking for the xfer Button, but not find it.?

My, serious, final phrase. I can help to see the pop in some realms too, if helpful. Ill look in herod at 19:00. Don’t forget to submit your searchs in the website.

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Yes, thankful to transfer to West Coast server from East Coast server. When I first joined, the server list was not in sections and I had no idea what the local server time was. Happy to moving.

I also transferred to Arcanite Reaper and its unplayable. I want to pay to go to a real server like Incendius with all my friends/family

So I got home late, and ended up taking the census at 11:10 server time. DISCLAIMER: This is for horde side Heartseeker for anyone reading. Tonight is actually on the lower end pop wise, being a little over 1200 right now and around 1500 most nights I’ve done a /who rampage.

For specifics, there were 916 horde lvl 1-59 on, and 296 horde lvl 60. That’s only about 25% of the horde online being lvl 60. Most are lvl 30-55.

Alright, Census finished at 12:10 A.M.

https://i.imgur.com/4dCqrka.png

3517 Alliance online, 1213 level 60’s (35%).