What about a democracy? Form a group that answers to an elected count or baron. It’s different to most of the main WoW races. From my understanding, most governments for the playable races are monarchies or dictatorships with a couple of theocracies thrown in.
Wow, in three sentences you insulted everyone who picked Forsaken as a race, then diminished their standing compared to NPCs, and then gave agency to those NPCs (which fit your own feelings).
That’s impressive.
For me, the Forsaken’s initial appeal was based on an interesting narrative. They were/are a group of those freed from the Lich King. They struggled to find a foothold in the world because most folks associated them with the Scourge and faced bigotry from others who see them as monstrosities. So they ended up living in the sewers under Lordaeron, just trying to live their unlife as it were.
Then throw in some kookiness with respect to their newfound undeadness. Building an odd society in the sewers, replacing lost limbs, and making jokes about literally falling apart added some fun. They also had their emotional and mental states warped upon unlife, which led to them feeling confusion at reactions to their own actions.
My biggest gripe with Calia is she’s just written in so much poor taste. The Forsaken supposedly are hurt by using Light magic; Calia is a Light-raised undead. The Forsaken have been undead (in general) for a while, while Calia is only recently undead and has none of the similar experiences the rest of the Forsaken have had since being raised into undeath.
I think Calia could have some interesting storylines, especially with respect to learning about Forsaken society, but having Light-Zombie-Barbie take over is a bit tone-deaf.
You mean hanging out with the person infused with the magic that hurts them? Yeah I’m not sure why the Forsaken (NPCs or PCs) would see it that way.
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Why? Because I said they wanted to play as tortured goths? Who cares. I picked my character to play as a ridiculous twirling edgelord. Don’t be ashamed of your character.
Because, lorewise, the NPCs vastly outnumber the PCs. So it makes sense that they should be the ones deciding who leads their own faction.
That’s like saying “Nobody wants to be around fire mages because of how people are flammable”.
Except she hangs out with undead all the time and it’s not hurting any of them so…apparently it doesn’t.
Unless I missed the scenes where Derek and Voss kept bursting into flames while talking to her.
That’s always weird to me. People often want to play the forsaken in a very specific manner, often the way they introduced in WC 3. You know, a race willing to do anything and everything to come out on top and survive.
But people seem to loose their ish when that’s mentioned. 
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Not really. The only undead characters that actively bemoan their state were Zeliak and Sylvanas. Forsaken tend to get sad for a few moments then bounce back to normal.
She really doesn’t, unless we consider basic psychology a superpower unique to her.
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Well…it’s like a medieval setting. They probably don’t have, like, a ton of grief councilors.
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Not as a specific job no, but counciling generally ran under the purview of the church. Any Forsaken aligned priest should be able to do the same thing if we were being strictly medieval in setting.
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My guess is that if they’ve been having those problems ever since they’re Undead, either they do have a ton of grief councilors, or they don’t need grief councilors.
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In a world where people are flammable, yeah… we burn witches at the stake.
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Some sort of elected council would be the best way to handle Forsaken leadership imo. People can’t agree on what the Forsaken identity should be, so their government should include that conflict. There can be different groups with their own agendas and ideas of what it means to be Forsaken.
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It would be nice if she were to sit down and choose the people she wants to lead over the Alliance that hates them at some point.
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Even if a council system makes sense, anything other than a singular representative character means Blizzard will basically give up trying to include that sub-faction in the story. I would rather have a single leader for meta reasons of having the Forsaken continue to be included every now and again.
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Actually it’s more like why most folks wouldn’t want to stand next to the Human Torch.
You know, because fire hurts.
//Cue someone who knows more about comics than I do to explain that you can even hug the Human Torch and not get burned
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Monarchies have…Councils.
We have ample real world examples with functional governments today and in the past throughout various cultures in human history that feature a central ruler and under them a broad organization dedicated to manement of the land.
It is normal for a King or Queen to have a council, it is in fact the standard.
The Forsaken should realistically have a central leader, and that leader should have a council. That is how government works.
Rank determined by order of decay… the more parts that have fallen off, the higher your status.
This would put Callia at peasant level.
The existing Deathguards serve that role. No need to hijack a PC class to do so when you can use an existing Forsaken specific group for that purpose.
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I mean. The entire Horde is now led by a council and lacks any form of centralized power (and seems to be doing just fine), so I fail to see why it wouldn’t work for a group of people as smart and collected as the Forsaken.
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It’s no longer the Horde, sir, it is now The Apology Tour.
Also, if you could stop yelling “Victory or Death!” and adopt the new slogan, “We’re real soory, eh?” that would be great.
Finally, I feel I should remind you that there’s no place for a Warchief in a time of peace. Mountainous shape of N’zoth looms in the background, Mawsworn swooping down to capture faction leaders, Scourge flooding the planet…
Baine: “FOR THE SHADOWLANDS!”
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That…doesn’t make any sense. We weren’t talking about our world, an even if we were, witches aren’t known for causing fires. A more apt comparison would be “nobody wants to be around beekeepers because bees sting!”
But since we’re talking about WoW anyway, my point was, nobody shuns fire mages, despite the fact fire burns everyone. There’s no reason to think that the Forsaken would have an unreasonable fear of Calia, who seems to be in complete control of her light magic.
This argument is especially dumb given that there are Forsaken Light-using priests!
Except it’s not, because Calia doesn’t indiscriminately radiate holy magic, any more than the Forsaken radiate necromancy. It’s just the magic that animates them, nothing more.
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Just being exposed to the holy light causes misery for the Forsaken. That doesn’t mean no one does it, but it is not the Forsaken religion. Alonsus Faol is politically unalaigned with the Forsaken. Has no connection to the Cult of Forgotten Shadow.
So, lets imagine for a moment, a group therapy, for people who were molested by clergymen, run by a catholic priest. One who was never touched by a priest. Maybe they have a victimhood identity, but at the hands of children. They were beaten and hurt by a gang of boyscouts.
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