Yes, casual players should be able to have fun with the new tier sets.
Not a fan of designing the game around the top min/max players. That goes both ways, I wish Blizzard would stop trying to stiffen min/max playstyles but at the same time, I do not want to see Blizzard cater to min/max playstyles.
Yes /10 char
Are we still having this discussion in 2021. The no relevant fear in lfr experiment failed in WoD. Let it stay hurried there.
Lfr should drop all the relevant gear scaled down appropriately so people at every level can enjoy the unique systems in the raids.
Technically it’s 2022.
It’s literally this simple:
If you don’t want to run LFR, don’t run LFR.
End of subject. End of thread. End of argument. End of the world as we know it and I feel fine.
People need to stop acting like Blizzard is forcing anyone to do anything in a game they willingly choose to pay $15 per month to play.
I cant speak for wod but, in legion there was an issue of sets being so powerful that making or breaking them was pretty much non negotiable. Its always been an issue with sets that legion made that much more apparent due to m+ allowing alot more gear farming. Some sets could be so powerful that for a set to be worth breaking, youd have to gain over 100 ilvls in your best stats which caused alot of dead slots where people could easily be walking around in lfr gear while pushing way harder content with much better gear collecting dust simply because the set bonus was THAT strong. It wont be quite as much of an issue this time around but it will still come up.
Yikes, thanks for the reminder. 
In theory, but we’re constantly told that the same isn’t true about guilds having loot options for running their own raids, so doesn’t the same apply here?
If you don’t want to run LFR, don’t run LFR.
If you don’t want to run with a guild using something other than personal loot, don’t.
Why is one different from the other?
They’re not.
All in all, don’t do anything you don’t want to do in the game.
People act like they’re being forced into paying $15 per month… it’s insane.
That’s great in theory.
So why are so many LFR players so determined to stick their noses into how guilds run their raids?
Vocal minority and that is not why LFR had a different loot table in WoD. Around that period in the game was when Normal also got a ton of nerfs to boss mechanics and was made more accessible. Blizzard was simply just trying to push people out of LFR and into normal and it didn’t really work.
With that said the removal of tier in LFR was universally hated by everyone. Also the whole “forced” argument is humorous considering the time investment to run wings in LFR was low due to weekly lockouts and you simply stopped LFR completely the second you either got the items on that difficulty or higher. It’s not like Titanforging where you were encouraged to run it on reset until the xpac ended.
I have no idea what LFR players want or do… lol why are you asking me? 
I don’t care what LFR players do, so they don’t really interfere with me playing the game.
Because the whole “if you don’t want to do LFR, don’t” thing was thrown in the trash the moment that LFR players decided that “if you don’t like a guild’s loot choice, don’t play with them” was an unacceptable basis, and that instead they should have the ability to decide how other people play the game.
That’s why. It’s done. “If you don’t want to do LFR, don’t do it” cannot be used anymore as an argument.
It should drop in lfr, but as of now tier should be obtainable from other content as well. Since it’s a borrowed power system and raiding isn’t the only pve endgame anymore.
If it’s an extra shot at a tier set item per week, they should be happy, but they’re not? Maybe they just prefer to be unhappy, and we can just let them be that way.
I think what would make people happy is if the pieces were on tokens again.
Having vanilla-style class-specific tier drops, combined with personal loot, is going to be terrible.
I think it will be available through other means (like M+). However, it will require a bit of upgrading in the Cipher of the First Ones’ system, if I’m recalling the Morgan Day interview correctly.
MoP handled tier gear perfectly! It was the best time i ever had raiding, LFR, Flex, and whatnot. But then the leets complained and it all got taken away, because the leets just couldnt control themselves and made it seem to Blizz like they were forced to lower content so they could get a tiny jump on the next tier of the raid.
They ruined the best raiding/tier setup this game has ever had!
The thing I’m still unclear on is whether it becomes the tier piece entirely, or whether the tier affix is added to the piece you’re modding.
Important for secondary stats. I know the stats on my tier pieces are horrible. 
I just want to enjoy the tier and playstyles. I have recently got into mythic plus and would love to get tier and use those new sets there. Especially the SV set.