For Vrakthris

Mods are not obligated to reply here. This is a forum for players to help other players. Mods show up when they can, and Vrakthris himself appears to be typing now, and will likely lock this thread and give his closing remarks.

You’re not the lord of this forum and don’t dictate who answers and who doesn’t, and your attitude is only going to make you less likely to get any answers you’re looking for.


I would be more willing to have left that topic open if there wasn’t so much bickering, amongst multiple people, including yourself. As it is, the only way to salvage the thread is to do some serious pruning, but even that will be complicated because there are genuine replies/discussions mixed with other commentary that isn’t as productive.

The fact of the matter is, there is already a thread with 15k replies discussing forum functionality, but ultimately the feedback has been received, but any changes made to the forums and how they work will take time.

If you wish to discuss anonymity in posting, at this point it would be best to stick to that thread.

This is what I am referring to. Instead of simply not replying, you had to engage. I’m not blaming you for this exclusively, a lot of people do it, but it is rarely productive. It often causes further discord in a thread and the result is often that the thread is locked or just deleted.

I understand you are looking for clarification, but posting on the forums means you are inviting others to participate in the discussion. Even one addressed specifically to me.

If, when posting, you encounter someone you feel is violating policy please just report it, don’t engage with the commentary you feel is trolling. As I noted, that makes simply removing the comment more difficult, it limits what we may be able to do. We’re trying to clean up comments that pop into threads, such as “now let’s talk about pizza”, or “it’s just trolling, report it and move on”, and even just accusations that X person is a troll, but it’s difficult to focus on that when there is so much other noise involved.


You left note to stick to one topic, well i thought to those i created, but they were locked. So how to stick into one if they were locked?

That topic is nothing but what you said in your first sentence. Yet, we see results.

I do understand what you just said, but it does not look and feel fair at all, to be honest.

That’s all.

Thank You.

i have tried to discuss the topic of anonymity in that thread and any time that someone brings up an opinion that differs or disagrees with that of the OP, then we are called rude names and all of our posts are flagged.

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I would rather stick to my topic and continue a discussion.

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That thread. Stick to that thread for discussion of forum changes. Making more is redundant. Other threads about forum account functionality were also removed besides yours over the past year or two.


yes i would like to discuss this topic and the moderator note did say that we are entitled to our opinion.

Well it is up to Vrakthris to decide if he will unlock topic or not. :four_leaf_clover:

I think he already told you that isn’t going to happen.


You are, but others are entitled to disagree with you. If they are calling you names and violating the forum rules, please be sure to flag their posts. If you simply disagree with them and don’t want to see any posts by that character, put that character on Ignore.

Of course, we don’t have account wide ignore yet…or you could just ignore the person and not the character.

People don’t get to keep making more threads just because they don’t get the agreement they want. ALL the other threads about forum accounts have been locked and channeled to one location. Regardless of opinion about the topic.


yes, i am fine with other people disgreeing with me, but i dont enjoy being called rude names when i am politely disagreeing with them.

the reality is that i don’t enjoy posting in the account wide ignore thread because whenever i post an opinion that disagrees with OP, other people call me rude names, quote the CoC at me, tell me that i am breaking the CoC and then flag all of my posts.

Who knows.

Point is very simple and obvious. You and your gang keep flagging posts you just do not agree with and they will get burried for moderators to review. When a single flag is made, like Orlyia stated, they usually do not even make to the moderator attention.

So while you get posts flagged and removed, one flag does literally nothing.

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I have not read your posts there, but have you tried not breaking the forum CoC if that is actually what you are doing? Most of them know the forum rules pretty well and if you are actually trolling then they would be right.

A very common internet tactic is to “concern troll” others. To post controversial or opposite opinions to rile up those who care about the topic. Holding a stance that is illogical and not backed by any facts, refusing to listen to any documentation or source citation, moving goalposts, etc. Then sitting back and watching people spend minutes, or hours, of time trying to convince the “concern troll” of how something actually works.

You are not doing that are you? If so, don’t do that.

Regardless, if they break the rules, flag their post. Put them on ignore. You are free to express your honest opinion, but not free to make echo chambers where you, or others, want to feel in control of the narrative.

I don’t have a gang, thanks for thinking I have friends though!

We get 5 forum flags a day per character. Most people don’t waste them on “disagreement”. You tend to break the forum rules repeatedly, which is why you get reported. You seem to think it is just about disagreement, it is not.


i was not breaking the CoC by politely communicating my opinion - and no, if i politely communicate my opinion, that is not “concern trolling”.

So 60 x5 = 300 for WoW retail, + other expansions. Unlimited flags.

Sockpuppeting will definitely earn you a vacation.

In addition to all the effort one must go through for those characters. Level 10 minimum and about 20 minutes of forum activity before they get to flag posts, just to start.


I’ll tell you what, Nelfas. Give me a little time to go through that thread and I’ll see what I can do.

If someone is calling you rude names, please just report it. Calling someone a troll isn’t exactly going to result in action, but we are trying to teach folks to get out of the habit of doing that.

I should clarify though, the main issue with many of your replies would be someone would say something in the thread, often disagreeing or otherwise brining up a counter point and your reply was almost always some variation of: " I think X would be a good thing, what are your thoughts on a system to allow full anonymous posting".

I remember seeing it and can see it in your deleted history, throughout multiple posts in the same thread.

This is kind of what I meant when I said some people are on one side of the issue and others the opposite. There isn’t discussion so much as “No, that’s a terrible idea, we should do this”.


Exactly. One of the reasons that thread exists so that we can have SINGLE forum accounts on the back end!

  • Only 5 flags per Bnet account. No more switching alts to flag or like things.
  • One trust level per Bnet account that does not reset when you change characters (char would be maybe an avatar option?)
  • One ignore flag account wide to ignore the PERSON, not the character.

That is what that thread is about.


I’m pretty sure they are either doing that or sealioning.


it’s just that whenever i attempt to share my opinion, people call me a troll. it’s not very easy to have a proper discussion in the account wide ignore thread because of that.

i have reported them and the posts are still there