For those against sharding at launch

What you experienced in the demo was nothing compared to what the world was like in vanilla. the demo didn’t even give you enough time to actually develop a real community.
was there community compared to retail? heck yes there was.
but compared to vanilla and burning crusade? not even close.

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we’ve mentioned them all and will continue to mention them all. just because you don’t like it has no bearing.

Excuse me?

This is an argument fallacy.

Resource farming was brought up because it was something Blizzard actually mentioned themselves. It was heavily argued here. That’s why it was the main point.

You then asked what other issues are there because that was brought up. And your response then is “stop harping on that issue because there are more” right after you tell me it has less impact on said other issues?

This sounds like very disingenuous argumentation.

Oooh! A sharding thread! I am surprised to see people still think there will either be no sharding or that it will only implement during the first starting zone.

We are getting closer and you will see…

Back in Wrath I was in qeues that lasted anywhere from 30 minutes to an hour. That’s too much time to be waiting to log in.

To you. Maybe.

But it also caused a huge backlash inside the community that asked for classic to begin with.

You know, the community they’re making the game for in the first place.

You seem to like chocolate ice cream, and that’s totally fine with me.

As long as we can have the vanilla we asked for.

well then don’t roll on a high population server.
no sharding outside of launch.

It wasn’t a high pop server. It was low pop. Unless I’m misremembering which of the three servers I was on in Wrath.

Remembering those discussion from back in the days of Vanilla. The reason they’re supposed to be rare is that the flasks are supposed to be rare. Much like the 40 man raid loot was also supposed to be both difficult and slow to obtain when starting from scratch(fresh server).

Abundant flasks makes obtaining gear easier, which makes progression easier, which speeds everything else up. It isn’t so much the economy they’re concerned about, its the impact some of those resources have on the process of players gearing up that they want to throttle.

I suspect sharding in Classic, beyond the starting zones, is going to be something they monitor closely. I’d expect sharding to be a rare enough event in Classic that Blizzard is going to have humans reviewing what triggered it. So the people who somehow manage to spawn a shard for reasons other than a very large PvP fight better be careful of the ban hammer coming down on them for exploits.

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there is no way you had queues on a low population server.
i was on a medium population server and the longest i waited in queue for was 5 minutes.

Queues in wrath weren’t that bad. You might’ve been on a high pop. I was on a high pop and it at max gave me like 30min ques.

During Vanilla when server tech lagged behind though server queues could last for hours.

there shouldn’t be sharding in classic outside of launch window and outside of low level zones. that’s from blizzard themselves.

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Yet a high pop server is a healthy server.

i agree, but if he doesn’t want to deal with queues…

Regardless, qeues should be actively avoided at all costs. I’ll take the “fractured community” I can actually engage with whenever I want over the “whole community” that I can only engage with when the Blizzard servers want to cooperate.

you clearly don’t understand. Community is one of the HUGE POINTS ABOUT CLASSIC. so fracturing the community is NOT GOOD for classic.
no sharding in classic outside of launch. period.

and oh god guys. Saqe is back from his most recent ban.

Well I disagree.
If queues maxed at say 30minutes, I do not believe it’d be that large of a hindrance.

And as stated, sharding disables large scale events entirely for large guilds and group pvp.

YOU do.

Im so glad the game isnt made for you.

Technically if its not illegal in the country you’re operating inside of then it’s not a crime no matter how much certain people would like it to be so.

I don’t know where these private servers are actually located, but some say it’s in Russia. If that’s so then there is literally ZERO anyone outside of Russia can do about it, and that’s just the way it is.

IF it’s inside the EU nations, then the new Article 11 and Article 13 will make short work of the former internet freedom of the EU that’s coming to an abrupt end because big business wants to rule the world. (This is bad, really really bad)

After Article 11 and 13 go into effect, the EU will have less internet freedom than China… That’s how awful it actually is.

Saqe is back…