That’s still discrediting what she has said by going off what you’ve experienced.
That’s your own subjective experience. Trying to apply that for everybody’s experience is silly.
We both know that getting into LFD with someone from your realm or connection then them joining your guild is a unicorn level rarity but whatevs. I can tell you just want to argue for the sake of arguing and that’s what’s actually silly.
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Treating people like nameless faceless tools that are there to get you what you want is a choice. It isn’t the game. It’s you.
Except that’s our subjective experiences. It would be like if i said to you “People being rude in dungeons is the normal” when most likely, i just had a few bad experiences myself.
And i can tell you’re just dismissing for the sake of dismissing.
You know what’s really funny here and how I know you’re doing this just to argue with me?
The person you’re championing is the one that’s trying to discredit me with her one experience. So take your hypocrisy and shove it.
I do not really think that the leveling is dated, well it is to an extent. But people are to lazy to really want to do it. Both in retail and in the classic variants.
In retail, the quests are flashier, and have more cut scenes and voice over’s, and they are incredibly linear. I think that was why the classic wow 1-60 quests stood out. The travel down time was rediculous, and was extremely open. The world just felt larger in scale. But i can only imagine how flying from level 20 in that old overworld, as well as a ton of other things would change that. I always thought it would be cool to level the original 1-60 content using chromie time in retail. Like that would make my day.
I mean, to put it simply, the average player just does not want to level up anymore. All most folks want is that end game experience, hence the reason why the classic wow paid real money level boost works and makes so much money for the development process. People hate leveling that much, that they would rather skip it.
Then you have the pro dungeon finder people, and i think at this point, it makes to much sense to add the dungeon finder to wrath classic. There are people who want to level, but they do not want it to be a drag. And the dungeon finder made leveling a lot quicker. That is all i can say.
But you have to draw that line somewhere. I think gearing up at end game, if that is the main goal, should take a while. And in wrath, it was easier yet than ever before. So i would hope blizzard like overtoons everything at end game at max level, to present somewhat of a challenge, since we know everything about wrath already. And once all the content is eaten up, it will be over before it begins.
Humans are moving insanely quickly these days. Nostalgia kicks in, what like 5 years after something comes out, which is insane. I still do not feel like wrath of the lich king is nostalgic. The pacing is i guess, and the way the classes work. Seems like every class goes blazing fast, and a ton of toys produce the same effects. Heroic leaping. Goblin rocket jump. Retail is all about being fast AF. At the time, wrath of the lich king was kind of in the middle between being fast and slow. It was just right in my eyes.
Making the game progress to slowly though, i do not even feel like the classic crowd is going to want that overall in the long run, but we will see.
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There used to be. Back in Vanilla-Wrath days, your entire server was a "community. And it policed itself too.
If someone was a loot ninja (back when you could do that) word would get around and that person would get fewer and fewer groups. If you had a person that would run ahead and pull stuff just to wipe the group, people would find out about that.
Now, you get into a group with a bunch of randos from anywhere, they might be a good sort, maybe they speak, maybe they don’t, and maybe when a pull goes bad they aggro what they can and poof out of the dungeon and you never see them again.
WoW used to have a community. Not as much anymore.
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Just talk to them. I’ve added people from LFG before. Most of the time the entire group is silent from start to finish. You can’t expect friendships to blossom if you don’t try.
I don’t see anything wrong with this. 
This whole post is just dismal. There’s community where you make it. There’s community in general chat, in raid pugs, even in LFG. You just have to put forth the effort to connect with the human behind the keyboard. If you autopilot through the game and never communicate anything other than what you have to, yeah, you’re gonna have no community.
I’ve met some really cool people from random events. Fishing for the strange goop was a good one. Everyone was chatting while we were all planted there with our fishing poles. Added two people on my bnet from that day.
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I don’t believe her experience is the norm either because everything i’ve said to you applies to everybody. As i said before, there’s no norm.
So try again.
Hit the nail right on the head. The type of players that play WoW now kind of remind me of a certain group of people that used to work at a certain game company that just went through a lawsuit. It’s sad really, to see have to actually deal with these kinds of people, what’s worse is that in most places in the world I have been, people are not like this on average.
Semper Fi! 
Try what again? Pointing out your hypocrisy?
So you’re wagging your finger at me for trying to discredit someone while at the same time ignoring that that’s how this entire conversation started with them. They were trying to discredit me with their one, rare situation but that’s cool with you because apparently you like them and not me, which is fine but it doesn’t mean I have to put up with it.
Chicken, beef, etc. I get it from the same butcher that my family has been buying from for generations.
Personal Experience =/= Universal Experience
That’s where the problem lies.
thats 2 things my guy
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…Based on your subjective experience…
I don’t care for your “Whataboutism”.
You don’t even know it’s rare. Again, you’re trying to use your own subjective experience as objective to discredit them.
I’ve literally said this applies to everybody. Did you even read my comment or you just ignored it? 
Why do i need to point towards the other mate here when i’ve literally just said, this applies to everybody? I’m pointing at anybody who does this, and yet you seem to think for some reason it’s hypocritical and i like the person…
Which speaking of… why the hell people are like… worried about other people liking other comments lately? … like i’m sorry, but if you think people liking the other person is a problem or bad in any sort of way you can think of (and don’t give me “it’s just fine” when you clearly don’t think it’s fine and going to be contradicted with a “but” anyways…) then that’s on you. 
while im not gonna discredit your lived experience, from my own my server didnt have this “policing each other” aspect. there was one notable guild we all new the guild leads name for and that was it. no server blacklisting, no call outs in trade that i was online for, and back in high school I was online A LOT lol. I really feel that players sense of community has to do with luck of the draw on server, not with the mentality of the game as a whole. on a micro level i did have a great guild community back during classic-LK but no server level community i see people here describe.
Except it doesn’t because you started your finger wagging with me, and not them, and they’re the ones that started it so for you, this is just about me.
If you were truly being “fair” then you would have replied to this:
But since you upvoted it that means you agree with her one experience discrediting me, making you a hypocrite.
It does. You’re free to argue for the sake of arguing though about this, but it actually does apply to everybody regardless how much you want to deny it…
Because you’re the worst example of that. I’m not letting her off the hook as well, because as i said before, this applies to everybody. Also, i don’t care for your “whataboutism”… your “well SHE STARTED IT!”…
I’m not going to follow your subjective definition of fair here.
Okay, i’l reply to it.
I’m glad you (Siersha) meet new people. 
Though it should be noted that just like Tovi’s experience here, it’s subjective and it’s not exactly the norm either. There’s no norm.
I only upvoted her because i’m glad she met new people.
You thinking Liking is agreement is your problem. Not mine or anybody elses.
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You can’t.
There are examples of it all over the internet from the original timeframe. It wasn’t “just” my experience. It was pretty widespread, even if you didn’t see it yourself, at the time.
I never denied it. I said you’re making this about me.
I didn’t say she started it in the way a child stomps their foot that their sibling got a cookie and they didn’t, I pointed it out because you skipped the person that did exactly what got you scruffled up and went right to me.
Yeah that’s pretty obvious that you really don’t care what’s fair.
That should have been your first and only post because all I was doing was replying to her trying to discredit me with her extremely rare situation.
I know what hypocrisy is and when someone’s being one. You were a perfect example because let’s face it, if I didn’t point out you were being a hypocrite, you would have never said anything to that person.
You literally have. 
Talk poop, get booped.
You know, it’s things like this that gives credence to the idea that you’re projecting here.
And i’ve commented on it and told her the same thing. Also please lay off the victimization… Nobody was attacking you.
I’m getting a little tired of that around here. 
I follow the objective definition of fair, not anybody else’s biased definition here.
Controlling much? 
You clearly don’t if your just denying me saying “this applies to everybody”.
Again, you’re still pushing your biased definition of “fair” here with this “Gotcha” argument here.
You’re just complaining about me because i’ve corrected you. And you would still complained about me even if i did started with her first.