"for a sense of community" Stop it

Indeed it probably was, but it doesnt change the point.

I think the point is the chances of finding a friend on your server using a system that is cross server and pools all the servers is really super low.

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To be honest i dont remember if it was before CRZ stuff or not, LIKELY it was. Which is why i support a non cross realm LFD.

Thanks for reminding me. I have to get a chicken out of the freezer to thaw for tomorrows soup. :+1: :bowl_with_spoon:

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LFD was always cross realm. It was always cross realm since it came out in patch 3.3.

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Self-fulfilling prophecy. Insisting there is no community ensures that there will be no community.

Omg, that just makes me hungry for chicken :pleading_face:

Well guess it was a lucky strike then.

It was years ago.

Agreed. I wish very much that wasn’t the case, but it is.

Yes, this is the crux of it.

If there’s going to be cross realm LFD, they should take it all the way and allow players from different servers in Classic to play with each other and bias matchmaking to so you get a similar chance repeat encounter experience to that’d you’d get with manual group building on a server with a normal population. Those repeat encounters are how connections are made and friends lists fill.

/waves to Eternosus

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Community is why I went full time on playing on RP servers.

Not that I haven’t built a guild and made tons of friends from PF, but I think “community” means different things to different people.

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There is a staggering degree of community and socialization happening every day in WoW on Discord servers.

:grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

/wave

Same. At least we’re honest.

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Tbf though, when LFD came out, we were still in Battlegroups which were only about 20 realms connected, so your chances of grouping with someone from your server were a lot higher than it was after they removed the Battlegroup restrictions.

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I think with wrath of the lich king, it was the last time we had the original 1-60 overworld to level through. The pre revamped cataclysm 1-60 overworld.

I honestly feel that was the only reason i had my sights set on classic wow, and classic wrath. Retail still does not have the old 1-60 overworld for leveling in chromie time yet. It probably never will to be honest.

I think the dungeon finder was a mistake when wrath was current content, just like all this hyper crazy junk that comes with the internet has been a mistake. I think the internet was cool in the early 2000’s but now it is overly complicated in some ways. Something always goes wrong. It has only shifted our society into perpetual lazyness. At the same time, everything revolves around it. You have no choice but to accept the internet as it is. Even if you hate the internet, as i do, you still are forced to use it. To get jobs. To do anything really . It just isn’t a good system. A monopoly in that form if you will. Because, i would wager most retail places will be gone eventually to. I think that was why the era’s before the internet were better, because there was more variety in terms of how you could do things.

As human beings, we are always going to go towards the more “convenient” options in terms of the ways we do things and the way we get things done. That is precisely the problem with LFD. It was almost to convenient. But, here we are. Blizzard added it back when wrath was current, and i would argue they should have kept it on the drawing board. And scrapped it entirely way before it became a plague.

But it is, a huge convenience. And i think forcing people to give it up, yah, the reactions to wrath classic and removing LFD, i expected the backlash.

The main issue i have is that they added a convenience, a convenience that was not even heard of at the time of original wrath, in the paid level boost with real money, which is a huge convenience. But it also breaks the lower levels, as it is almost impossible to form groups.

Heck, on my server in classic bc atm, there are not even any auctions going on in the AH. Like legit, no one is playing. Is that what blizz wants classic wrath servers to look like in the long run? I mean, sure classic wrath will be relevant for a while, but it will not have the longevity that it did when it was current content. I mean, i just do not see the point of removing the dungeon finder at this point if we are going to add paid real money level boosts to the experience.

I would be fine with wow retail otherwise, and the classic wrath could just be the classic experience or whatever it is i don’t even know. Because the cross realm dungeon finder existed back when wrath was current, and paid real money level boosts did NOT exist back then. At the same time, in retail wow, the old overworld no longer exists either. At the same time, wrath was fun, and the leveling process was part of that fun, as the old overworld was a bit more accesible by the time wrath was out back then.

Cataclysm was a expansion that i loved, and the experience was amazing, and the revamp was amazing, but removing options or conveniences, never really goes well with a community. It ends up just being a massive social experiment. Well, let see what happens if we remove the old classic overworld in cataclysm. Let us see what happens if we remove the dungeon finder with wrath classic. The reactions are expected. And i loved the cata revamp. But i miss the old overworld. It was amazing.

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That makes sense. When it was new, i got into 2 randoms one day where one or 2 of the players were the same in both.

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I’m watching you :eye:

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I wouldn’t say EVER. I remember when I started you’d see the same old faces hanging around the same areas in game, same names in chat, the realm forums were… actually used. lol

It evaporated immediately in Wrath when they opened up faction transfers. Changes since then may have made it worse, but that was the singular point when that type of community died.

/waves to Eternosus

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