Why are you apologizing? I love reading your fan fiction. Keep doing what you’re doing, maybe you’ll hit it off big one day as an author! Just a suggestion though, for your next chapter, the main character in your story should discover they’ve been living in a dream the entire time. I know I know, cheesy “MC wakes up it was all a dream” moment, but I think it’d work well here. It’s hard for the readers to stay engaged.
Lol my sides, no way you actually posted on two different characters pretending to be two different people trying to roast me
First Fate, now Rider? I’m sure there’s another alt out there somewhere too.
If that’s the case, then how come your friends didn’t get it either? Eluna and Rias like to bring up rating, yet their ratings haven’t even passed 1800 from the looks of it. They’re stuck Rival and still didn’t achieve 2100, which in your words for Dragonflight, was “inflated”. Is it safe to say that 1800 was “inflated and is realistically 1300”? If so then that shows alot about them.
Would you agree to remove the toxic bounty system as well? Last night I was in the middle of flying and got bounty on me. I parachute to the ground. I was in the middle of something and Blitz Que. I had to cancel my Blitz Que and take a follower dungeon to wipe the bounty so I could keep playing the game.
I’m sorry but as long as there are toxic mechanics in WPvP I fully support follower dungeon Ques so you can keep playing the game as intended. You need to do everything you would normally do with Warmode off. Quest, mine, fly around explore the only thing Warmode should add is some fun additional PvP while doing these activities.
I mean, there are other ways to clear a bounty without needing to queue for a follower dungeon. You could’ve logged the bounty off and kept your Blitz queue as well.
But I think context matters here though. Had you got bountied and Horde started to attack you, and mid fight you took a follower dungeon, yeah, nah dude that shouldn’t be allowed. Shouldn’t be able to just queue up for a follower dungeon to avoid death in my opinion.
Now, had your Blitz Que popped mid fight and you took the queue, that’s a different story and I wouldn’t judge you for it. It’s a rated queue, you shouldn’t be barred from taking an arena or blitz queue just because you were fighting another player.
By that definition, you’re pretty much saying, “as long as there’s WPvP, I support follower dungeons.”
Many people consider different things in WPvP as toxic. Some people consider roaming in a group as toxic, some think world buffs are toxic, people will think rogues waiting in stealth to kill a player is toxic, etc.
Bounty system could use a rework, sure, but I wouldn’t call it a toxic mechanic. It’s just out dated. It used to be a cool idea back in BfA, but they never worked on it afterwards.
It’s the best way. Follower dungeons are also awesome for clearing Debuffs as a warrior.
Counter point. Remove the toxic bounty system that no one wants to participate in. Sometimes I will even Que a follower dungeon to wipe the Assassin buff. The bounty system is terrible for the game and open world content. The bounty system gets in the way of playing the game. We don’t want to participate in it.
This is not true. I support organic healthy WPvP. There is a difference between toxic design that hurts WPvP and good design that promotes WPvP. Bounties don’t promote WPvP and hurt participation. The bounty system is a reason to turn Warmode off.
Might not be a problem for you but follower dungeons will clear world buffs, which I’m not really a fan of therefore I will never use them.
Logging out allows me to keep them though so.
Counter to your counter point: I don’t think the bounty system is necessarily toxic. It’s annoying, but only because it disabled flying. That’s it really.
I think for the most part it encourages WPvP, but does need to be reworked. Give incentive to stay bountied and allow flying (slower flying speed and whenever they fix the bugs that prevent us from dismounting other players).
If this were the case you’d be against follower dungeons.
You can’t be for healthy WPvP if you’re saying taking a follower dungeon queue to escape any WPvP encounter is fine. There’s no counter play to that. Healthy WPvP would allow some type of counter for everything out there. Even bubble hearth has a counter.
I can agree with you here. The bounty system is total trash and a reason to turn Warmode off or avoid it best you can since it gets in the way of playing the game.
Not all WPvP encounters are fine. Some are toxic and unhealthy. The majority of players against follower dungeon Ques are Toxic Gankers and not actual WPvPers.
Keep in mind I also don’t have an issue if I’m fighting someone and they take a follower dungeon. I’m not a hypocrite. It’s just a part of WPvP and I don’t mind it. So we can agree to disagree on some of these points.
Completely fine to have alts and other accounts, but it’s cringe to try to pretend to be someone else on those other alts or accounts.
It’s not that I can’t retaliate, its more so that it doesn’t matter what I say to you guys because you’re trolls. I could have a compilation of me killing you in a 1v1, or I could even wargame one of you and beat you in a 1v1, but you’d still deny it and say that I cheated somehow, I got lucky, or some other stupid excuse.
At the end of the day it all boils down to you guys holding a grudge on me just because I killed you guys in WPvP or you guys are mad that you needed to resort to running away or taking a follower dungeon queue.
I don’t have a Bow, I play Survival. What you should do, like you and your friends always do, is take a follower dungeon, hearth out, and turn off War Mode.
I’ll leave off with this:
Whenever you want to settle the beef once and for all instead of continuing to trash talk, you’re free to wargame me. I’ve given my btag already, WilloWisp#1275. I’m down for a 1v1, us arguing literally doesn’t do anything for either of us.
I’m against follower dungeon queues because of toxic gankers. Toxic gankers are the ones who will typically abuse follower dungeon queues from my experience, but I guess it depends on what you define as a toxic ganker.
They’re the ones who can’t accept dying under any circumstance, and therefore, will do anything to avoid that, even if it means follower dungeoning.
Or it’s the fact that we have killed you so many times that you resort to lying on the forums because you are so embarrassed.
You literally made a screenshot where it shows that I died in combat logs AND also shows that I am in a dungeon – two pics stitched together. You say its proof that I follower dungeon. But riddle me this: How can combat logs say I die WHILE also I am in a follower dungeon? It can’t. If I follower dungeoned like you say I did, then I wouldn’t have died. Explain that…
See? It’s sad that you are trying this hard to accuse me of follower dungeoning when even you own so-called evidence and proof doesn’t add up. The logic doesn’t make sense… As I said before, you probably screenshotted me when I was PvE’ing/dungeoning and then have another screenshot at a different time when I was PvPing… Then claim they are the same…
And we already talked about the video. You just can’t accept that it’s the deepholm potion. You are spitting more lies and I am just trying to defend my reputation as a normal casual PvP’er while you are making up lies.
You are just trying so hard to troll on the forums because I killed you so many times and you are just trying to save your ego here. I don’t get it. Take the L.
Yeah… Because in the specific argument we were having on that other thread, you kept saying, “You’ve never killed me! Hahaha!” and when I fought you at ducks WQ in Ohn’ahran Plains, you kept follower dungeoning. Literally spamming it while simultaneously saying on the forums that you don’t follower dungeon. That same night, I was able to kill you (as shown on combat logs) before you were able to take the follower dungeon on time.
You had already queued for it, but you can accept the queue even when you’re dead. That’s what I was laughing at, the fact that, despite abusing follower dungeons, you still died before you were able to successfully click, “Accept” on the queue.
You keep ignoring the fact that you can’t Deepholm Potion in combat and you also ignored the fact that in 10.2.5, they added a check for that specific potion that doesn’t allow you to use the potion if you’ve recently been in PvP combat.
Your logic on “it was a potion” doesn’t add up because I’m telling you here that you literally cannot use it in combat and shortly after PvP combat.
Stop replying unless you finally admit you’ve been accusing me incorrectly of using a follower dungeon. Stop replying until you apologize for falsely accusing me of lying. Be an adult.
You have one other person in this thread besides me, and mind you who I don’t even know so it’s not him trying to defend me or anything like that, who says you were follower dungeoning as well because he’s fought you before in WPvP and his story lines up exactly with what I’ve had to put up with.
So no. You can say you didn’t follower dungeon all you want but we know that’s bs.
I honestly don’t care if you follower dungeon or not, but you come to these threads to insult me for no reason other than to derail the topic.
You just proved my point right here. If I cannot accept queue while dead then how can I be in a follower dungeon?! Literally proves that you are making stuff up just to satisfy your ego.
If you really wanna bring up that other thread (which wasn’t even talked about here until just now), then I can bring up the fact that you killed me twice while I killed you 12 times. I even have it in a screenshot (see I actually have proof) that I posted in that other thread.
It all boils down to the fact that you are mad that I destroyed you and you can’t accept that. Even your logic that I quoted doesn’t make sense…
So stop saying I follower dungeon when I do NOT. All I want to do is address the OP’s concerns because I agree with it. This follower abuse needs to stop and any player who uses it should be banned.
Don’t try to gaslight now haha. You’re just doubling down because you were caught on it. You can try to be deceptive all you want saying, “nah I wasn’t pretending, just posting on an alt” but we all know you’re just cringe buddy.
I post here whenever there’s nothing else going on. It’s no different than someone scrolling through Twitter or someone scrolling through Tiktok.
Dunno where you’re pulling that information from but I definitely did random BGs this expansion and last expansion. Even if I did arenas, we’d likely never run into each other because you and your friends are stuck in the 1800 bracket.
Ah yes I was very sneaky about impersonating someone else, being in the same guild . Sorry I didn’t announce “MY NAME IS” at the start of every post…do you need help connecting the dots? C’man man show some dignity. You don’t have to justify what you spend your time on, I didn’t ask or care what you decide to do with your free time. You are a troll irl and in game. There is no offer, I already know the type of player you are. Btw profession tinkers, toys, world buffs, and delves escapes don’t work in arena :0. You are beneath me. That’s all. Just know that.
That Paladin, Fate, isn’t in the same guild. What are you talking about lol
Rider and Ocean are, sure, that’s more obvious. Just weird you’d post on one character, and then immediately after, post on another about a completely different matter instead of just consolidating it in the same post.
Like, all of this couldve been done in the same post. You were caught being cringe.
There is an offer. You’re just declining it for some reason. If you know that world buffs and tinkers aren’t a thing in arena, why not do the wargame?
You keep calling me unskilled and that you’d beat me in an arena match, so why not prove it?
