Not sure anymore. I think I got used to it being a hassle after my old guild called it quits and now fast-forward to BFA, and I only have one LFR kill…
Now I focus on trying to get flying and unlock the allied races I want.
I raid in a two day a week guild and am working on mythic nzoth have gotten both psychus’s down now just have to clean it up to get into mythic only phase.
Do you not consider 2 days a week casual?
For me it’s committing to a set timetable. Up until recently I was working till 6 PM Pacific (M - F), and that’s a bit late for some raid groups. I also have to break a lot to take care of my wife.
Up until quarantine I was getting my kicks from Friday D&D - once a week, 7 -10, easy.
I don’t get on comms that often but the social awkwardness goes away once you get into it. And I already work my professions like I was GOING to raid anyway, so prepping food and flasks is the least of it. It’s time, for me. And if the quarantine keeps going, and my D&D group doesn’t move to doing zoom or roll20 or something like that, I’ll try to find an accommodating raid team, meh.
Honestly, no, especially for mythic.
Tell me if I’m wrong, but from what I’ve seen and been told, that for that level of raiding there’s much pre-raid work that needs to be done (mats/pots/best gearing, etc.) and a strict schedule that must be adhered to, as well as a very well structured hierarchy of orders and actions during the raid.
A job, more or less (not saying that in a derogatory way), and definitely not something that is done casually.
That HEAVILY depends on the content you’re clearing in those two days.
On my Mage I raid two days a week and we’re progging on Carapace right now, and it’s on what I’d consider to be a VERY competitive server; when I raided on my DK back in late WoD and early to mid Legion it was with a 2-day guild as well, and that guild got US 146th Mythic Archimonde (where I raided with them) and US 127th Mythic Blackhand the tier before I joined.
I wouldn’t consider any 2-day or 3-day guild to be “hardcore.” That’s reserved for, like, the top 30 guilds worldwide (imo). But if they’re actually doing Mythic I’d hardly consider those guilds to be “casual” either.
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2 days a week for 3 hours a day is pretty dang casual lol.
Casual doesn’t mean bad it just refers to how much you play.
IMO the term “casual” is a bit more complex than that. It’s in-part time investment and in-part what you’re doing with said time.
A 2-day guild would be “casual” by the standards of a typical Cutting Edge guild, but the vast majority of players in this game would do far easier content with the same time investment.
You aren’t a “casual” player if you’re getting past Mythic Ra-den or Mythic Il’gynoth. You’re just “casual” compared to the guilds that killed those bosses a couple months ago.
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Believe you’d be the only person who uses the words “mythic” and “casual” in the same sentence, but ok, I get it now that you are speaking just about the time taken inside of a raid instance, and not the rest of the work and dedication that it takes to be a mythic raider.
They’re not the only one. I personally believe it’s casual to raid on a 6 hour a week schedule in any difficulty.
When people describe what kind of raider you are, they are not talking about just how much time you spend inside of the raid instance. They’re talking about the effort the player has to put into being able to met and conquor the raid/boss, based on its difficulty level.
So if someone was to say they are ‘casual’ and a ‘mythic’ raider, that seems like a contradiction, based on the facts on the ground, because of the amount of work required to be able to defeat a mythic raid level boss. The effort required.
For example, I don’t raid or do much end-game content, so I’m a casual player, but being retired, I easily play WoW many hours a day, every day (right now at least). So does that make me be NOT a casual player?
The context of the words being used matters. When someone describes what kind of a raider you are, they use ‘casual’ for LFR (for example), or they use that word to mean they do a regular raid here and there, but not with a schedule dedication.
Anyway, if we all want to redefine what a ‘casual’ raider is, go ahead, its up to the raiders really to define the concepts and the language being used to describe themselves. If being a casual raider and doing mythic is an apt description, then we’ve watered down the meaning of words to a point that you have to double-check everything someone is saying to make sure you got the right ‘version’ of the meaning of what they are saying.
Edit: Fundamentally, doing something that requires dedication, scheduling, and planning, should not be called a “casual” activity.
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I can’t redefine what’s essentially an interpretation. I simply look at the amount of time a team runs into Mythic and then define whether or not they’re a more casual raiding group or a hardcore one. There are no definitions that are made to be law within the WoW Community as what constitutes a casual raider.
I view someone raiding on a 6 hour a week schedule to be a casual raiding group. Any more then that begins to push that definition in my eyes.
I love raiding the most! I’m just in a career where I’m on call 24 hours and it’s hard to commit to anything. It won’t always be this way, I’m just grinding for retirement while I can.
After retirement I plan to come back to raiding, I’m sure by then there will be plenty of geriatric guilds.
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Well, its an interpretation based on how the word “casual” is used in the English language: https://www.google.com/search?q=definition+of+casual
Casual ≠ Casual Raider
Sorry, the word “Casual” was used to describe the raider, so it gets interpreted as to how the English language says it should be.
If you want to invent a new WoW language for adjectives, go ahead.
I don’t have to because the gaming genre already has its own language when describing things. I could find a definition that could fit my interpretation on what casual means when playing video games. Just like how you can just use the word casual and stick it to what must apply to everything.
If you play wow a lot no you probably wouldn’t be considered a casual player. You can be hardcore at aspects of the game besides just raiding.
I use to raid constantly during WOTLK and Cata. I then took a break for a while. I main tanked and healed on my paladin DPSed on my warlock. I immensely enjoyed it. When I came back to playing in BFA a lot changed but I became accustomed to it rather quickly.
However the guild I was in pushed raids and mythics, everything was done when I couldn’t be online. Raids were Thursday, Friday, Saturday nights. I was working to support my family. My computer was a little outdated and it would take longer for me to zone into dungeons and I would get kicked before it began. I became discouraged and stopped running anything like that for a while.
Recently I updated my computer and ran every heroic 5 man I could yesterday. I had such a good time! I’m looking forward to mythics and raids soon. I just don’t know how to truly go about that.
I could find a definition that could fit my interpretation on what casual means when playing video games.
Did you ever stop to think that if you couldn’t find it then maybe your understanding of the usage of the word as an adjective may be incorrect?
Honestly not trying to beat you into the ground on this, but we’re literally having to discuss/debate what the word “casual” means, when its used as an adjective. We should be able to find common ground on the definition of a term that is taught us in school at an early age.
Segregating time required and ignoring everything else is not an accurate way of describing an activity and choosing the right adjective to describe said activity.