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If you're constantly being slowed or dazed to your death then no it wouldn't be faster at all.
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They could give players arial combat abilities so that you are not a sitting duck in the air against flying mobs.
Why are you trying to fix something that's not broken?
11/06/2018 04:46 AMPosted by
Ryuk
11/06/2018 04:11 AMPosted by
Leowulf
Give flying to everybody on expansion release without a mechanism to earn it, now it is no longer special.
That is 1 less thing for you to look forward too and work towards.
The only reason you enjoy it and think it is cool is because of the time and work it takes to earn it and because of the content shortcuts it provides.
Both of which are reasons to not award flying early in an expansion.
Absolutely false. I've loved flying every since I first took off in BC. Those are your opinions and do not reflect the views of everyone.
You liked flying for the content shortcut as you previously admitted in this thread when somebody proposed flying mobs that could daze you and you responded with ...
11/06/2018 03:39 AMPosted by
Ryuk
Then what's the point of flying?
Which brings me back to point number 1, the content shortcut argument is the best reason not to award flying early in the game.
If somebody offered you guys the option to press 1 button and auto-complete every WQ, you would all rejoice and then complain about being bored.
That's the problem, flying isn't that magical button but it's close enough to become an issue.
I'm fine with no flying and well, the horde city sucks.
Also wish they'd incentive warmode with mounts/titles from wq's and achieves and leave flying off in it. Why exactly did legion have more pvp wq than this expac?
So we can enjoy it for a few months before the next xpac.
11/06/2018 05:09 AMPosted by
Leowulf
11/06/2018 04:46 AMPosted by
Ryuk
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Absolutely false. I've loved flying every since I first took off in BC. Those are your opinions and do not reflect the views of everyone.
You liked flying for the content shortcut as you previously admitted in this thread when somebody proposed flying mobs that could daze you and you responded with ...
11/06/2018 03:39 AMPosted by
Ryuk
Then what's the point of flying?
Which brings me back to point number 1, the content shortcut argument is the best reason not to award flying early in the game.
So you're telling me what I like and how I feel. Stop. I like flying because its player freedom. Plain and simple. I enjoy the game more AND I play more when I can fly. If someone enjoys being on the ground they can always use their ground mount.
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11/06/2018 05:13 AMPosted by
Leowulf
If somebody offered you guys the option to press 1 button and auto-complete every WQ, you would all rejoice and then complain about being bored.
That's the problem, flying isn't that magical button but it's close enough to become an issue.
You really sound like somebody employed by Blizzard. Like I said earlier I play more when I can fly.
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11/06/2018 05:13 AMPosted by
Leowulf
If somebody offered you guys the option to press 1 button and auto-complete every WQ, you would all rejoice and then complain about being bored.
That's the problem, flying isn't that magical button but it's close enough to become an issue.
Show me this auto-complete button on my gryphon. I can't find it. Last I checked, I have to land and complete any content with my character.
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Yeah that's how the rest of us feel now. We've done it. You are always welcome not to fly even when it is implemented. That really seems like a "you" problem.
Great, so you would support Blizzard adding an "instant kill" ability and giving it to everyone right? I mean if you find it trivializes content you don't have to use it, after all that was your point right?
Some features are so strong that even if you dislike them, you are forced to use them or be placed at a disadvantage. Flight is one of these features and honestly, I wish they would just remove it once and for all. I bet most the people who would threaten to quit wouldn't actually do it.
11/06/2018 05:37 AMPosted by
Caelin
Yeah that's how the rest of us feel now. We've done it. You are always welcome not to fly even when it is implemented. That really seems like a "you" problem.
Great, so you would support Blizzard adding an "instant kill" ability and giving it to everyone right? I mean if you find it trivializes content you don't have to use it, after all that was your point right?
Some features are so strong that even if you dislike them, you are forced to use them or be placed at a disadvantage. Flight is one of these features and honestly, I wish they would just remove it once and for all. I bet most the people who would threaten to quit wouldn't actually do it.
The only disadvantage is the one you made up in your head.
They tried to remove flying for good and that didn't work out the way they wanted. If by some chance they did remove flying for good I'd remove my subscription for good as well.
Edit - flying gets you to content. It doesn't do the content for you.
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11/06/2018 05:40 AMPosted by
Ryuk
The only disadvantage is the one you made up in your head.
Yep, because flight doesn't make resource gathering or questing vastly easier. Nope, not at all!!
11/06/2018 05:40 AMPosted by
Ryuk
Edit - flying gets you to content. It doesn't do the content for you.
Wait, I most magically be getting to mtyhic+ and raids right now because I don't have flight and yet some how I manage that mystical task every week. I most be hacking!!!
11/06/2018 05:44 AMPosted by
Caelin
11/06/2018 05:40 AMPosted by
Ryuk
The only disadvantage is the one you made up in your head.
Yep, because flight doesn't make resource gathering or questing vastly easier. Nope, not at all!!
11/06/2018 05:40 AMPosted by
Ryuk
Edit - flying gets you to content. It doesn't do the content for you.
Wait, I most magically be getting to mtyhic+ and raids right now because I don't have flight and yet some how I manage that mystical task every week. I most be hacking!!!
It doesn't make questing easier. You have to go to where the quests are, land, then *gasps* actually do the quests!! What a concept!
You compared flying to an "instant kill ability". That goes to show how ridiculous people against flying sound. You have to make up these asinine scenarios then say "see flight is almost as bad as *made up scenario*"
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You didn't have to work for it in TBC, Wrath, Cata or even MoP and they were very well-received.
Just because something is well-received doesn't mean every single decision were all perfect. WotLK had one of the worst raids in history (And Cata wasn't well-received in the slightest).
Here's a thought, why don't they make flying specific combat/quests/etc and actually make it a true part of the game instead of just some side thing.
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11/05/2018 08:21 PMPosted by
Sonagen
11/05/2018 06:18 PMPosted by
Ohenzo
Besides, by the the time flying is released the new content will likely be "no fly" anyways.
Such blatant disregard for customer satisfaction and experience would never 'fly' in
the real workplace world. And the hubris demonstrated by developers who seem to not care in the least what their community thinks astounds me.
Except the vast majority of players did vote and respond in favor of no flying at all. It should have been removed from all zones and content but a small vocal few have ruined it for all of us.
Really? When did we ‘vote’ on flying?
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The "blatant disregard for customer satisfaction" is part of the Activision/Blizzard corporate culture. You have to have that mindset or you can't work there, obviously. Look at what happened at Blizzcon - that's a window into their world, and it's an ugly, attitude-filled drama land of egos and personalities battling each other and the customers. A complete 180 to how Blizz was 10 years ago, and the sub numbers prove it.
All they're doing now is riding on past success and squeezing blood from the stone that's left of the customer base. Good god they can't even make Warcraft 4, they have to re-do WC3 instead because they have no idea how to make a good game today.
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I'm tired of being unable to fly.
I can understand while leveling but not at max level.
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It should be added at max level for gold.
It is not being added right away because of a personal preference on the part of a developer or a group of powerful developers.
Wish the devs would be honest and actually tell us why they take away a game design that I enjoy when those that hate it are always, always, able to use ground mounts as intended. Of course that would mean they care about their customer enough to communicate with them, and NO, a customer service rep blue is NOT the same.
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I enjoy not flying until the X.2 of the patch like in Legion, I get to explore the world it seems larger, and by the time X.2 roles out when I'm leveling more alts I can just fly by the boring stuff where I have already seen everything for the 10th+ time leveling characters to 120.
Fyi I already have 8 120's....
Wait a minute. First, how the hell can you have eight 120s and not have explored 'the world' yet? Second, I have explored 'the world' already on my single 120 and I am ready for flying right now. This all or nothing !@#$ has to go with Blizzard.
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11/05/2018 06:32 PMPosted by
Orienn
How many threads are we going to see a day about this topic? The horse is deader.
Because of nonsense like:
Flying damages immersion.
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