11/05/2018 06:32 PMPosted by OriennHow many threads are we going to see a day about this topic? The horse is deader.
Until they stop this nonsense. I chuckle at the posts. But on the side I do miss flying.
Until they stop this nonsense. I chuckle at the posts. But on the side I do miss flying.
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11/05/2018 07:14 PMPosted by DĂ€rkmist11/05/2018 06:48 PMPosted by Mordritch...
Now say that without crying. Also, you could just use your ground mount in order to save your almighty immersion. But you know .... canât have any logical thinking in these forums.
I enjoy flying as much as the next person. It makes farming so much more palatable. That being said I don't have to like what they do to understand why they do it amd accept their reasons as completely valid. How would you like it if you poured your soul into a project that took thousands of man hours to complete just to have someone ignore it. Flying made sense for BC, wrath, cata and Mop because of the terrain, but they have been designing away the NEED for flying since WoW and have made it strictly a convenience. The compromise is pathfinder.
I get your opinions and all that jazz, but when you post... it couldn't possibly be more useless.
The devs said flying was a mistake...well, the current lead dev said this. You know, the guy who has cratered WoW so badly they stopped reporting sub numbers and want to Skype with unsubbers to find out why. You know, the guy who thought Azerite armor was a great idea, who thought Island Expeditions were exciting and who thought Warfronts was compelling content. Maybe he;s not the best judge of whats best for the game. Also, they said years ago affing arena was a mistake and yet not only is it still here but they balance PvP around it and sponsor tournements.
Flying gives an unfair advantage when gathering mats...so does stealth, should we delete that? So does better gear since you can kill mobs faster, should we disable raid gear outside of raid zones? So does someone who has more time, should we limit time your able to gather mats? Besides, its only true if both gatherers start gathering on a race track type course.
Its their game...yes, but its our money. We can tell them their wrong, just as you would if they came out today and told you everyone is getting race changed to Leper gnomes.
The only reason we have Pathfinder is because Ion is a spiteful [REDACTED].
Flying gives an unfair advantage when gathering mats...so does stealth, should we delete that? So does better gear since you can kill mobs faster, should we disable raid gear outside of raid zones? So does someone who has more time, should we limit time your able to gather mats? Besides, its only true if both gatherers start gathering on a race track type course.
Its their game...yes, but its our money. We can tell them their wrong, just as you would if they came out today and told you everyone is getting race changed to Leper gnomes.
The only reason we have Pathfinder is because Ion is a spiteful [REDACTED].
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Wrong.
https://www.mmo-champion.com/content/4568-Hotfixes-for-December-5th-No-Flying-Poll-DLC-467
Stop using this link.
1) This link is not related to the current content- this was done 3 expansions ago.
2) This particular poll was easily circumvented. I'm pretty sure I voted a couple of times on that one. It wasn't a valid poll back then and it definitely isn't valid now.
3) See point 1.
Its even less relevant when you consider that its a poll from a month after launch. A time when it would barely matter.
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11/05/2018 09:12 PMPosted by Charax11/05/2018 09:10 PMPosted by GraewynYou got anything else? Because mocking you is going to be the easiest thing I do all night.
You can try mocking me but I am actually quite good at debating. Bring it on, my salty friend. I will gladly swat down your arguments.
The fact you tried to offer up an mmo champ poll as any sort of "proof" means, no, you aren't.
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Except the vast majority of players did vote and respond in favor of no flying at all. I
..when was this? Other than in your imagination........
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Let's suppose you could fly right now, how would that make you log on for longer?
The amount of flight paths in every zone is already borderline ridiculous, top it off with the short cooldown on Flight Master's Whistle and you can already semi-fly directly from quest to quest.
The requests for flying early in the game are so unreasonable, given the accomodations we have already been provided, that I suspect trolls that just cannot wait to fire up their bots to gather mats.
The amount of flight paths in every zone is already borderline ridiculous, top it off with the short cooldown on Flight Master's Whistle and you can already semi-fly directly from quest to quest.
The requests for flying early in the game are so unreasonable, given the accomodations we have already been provided, that I suspect trolls that just cannot wait to fire up their bots to gather mats.
11/05/2018 06:18 PMPosted by OhenzoBesides, by the the time flying is released the new content will likely be "no fly" anyways.
Such blatant disregard for customer satisfaction and experience would never 'fly' in
the real workplace world. And the hubris demonstrated by developers who seem to not care in the least what their community thinks astounds me.
Can't wait to read your crying flying thread next expansion titled: " Flying: Why must we wait until 9.2?"
11/05/2018 09:24 PMPosted by GnomestLol. I am happy there will be no flying for a good long while. WPvP will take a hit when it comes out.
Yes, 6-12 horde running at level 120 killing ally players in Darkshire that are trying to level is incredible wpvp. Flying enabled this very moment wouldn't make any different in this case.
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11/06/2018 06:28 AMPosted by LeowulfLet's suppose you could fly right now, how would that make you log on for longer?
The amount of flight paths in every zone is already borderline ridiculous, top it off with the short cooldown on Flight Master's Whistle and you can already semi-fly directly from quest to quest.
The requests for flying early in the game are so unreasonable, given the accomodations we have already been provided, that I suspect trolls that just cannot wait to fire up their bots to gather mats.
I would do my emissary quests, explore while I'm flying to them then log onto an alt and do it again and again and again and again. I have 5 120s and doing a set of emissaries on one is boring enough without flying. I have to get on a flight path which robs control of my character and wait to play. When I fly I'm actually playing the game instead of waiting on a non interactive flight path.
I'd also level the other 13 characters I have sitting at 110.
Like I've said in earlier posts I'd do a LOT more if we could fly.
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So I can save ~6 months of subscription fees while I play games I already own and wait for the implementation along with all the end of expansion catch up mechanics?
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Wish ppl would stop parroting the stupid blizzard line about âimmersionâ.
Itâs only because they run out of content too fast with flying that they have time gated it . I wonder why Blizzard cannot be honest about the reason instead of thinking that itâs players are brain dead.
Itâs only because they run out of content too fast with flying that they have time gated it . I wonder why Blizzard cannot be honest about the reason instead of thinking that itâs players are brain dead.
The majority are fine with it... Sorry 'bout it!11/05/2018 06:18 PMPosted by OhenzoSuch blatant disregard for customer satisfaction and experience would never 'fly' in the real workplace world.
11/06/2018 06:28 AMPosted by LeowulfLet's suppose you could fly right now, how would that make you log on for longer?
The amount of flight paths in every zone is already borderline ridiculous, top it off with the short cooldown on Flight Master's Whistle and you can already semi-fly directly from quest to quest.
The requests for flying early in the game are so unreasonable, given the accomodations we have already been provided, that I suspect trolls that just cannot wait to fire up their bots to gather mats.
I've found I always play more when my character has access to a flying mount. Unlike some other MMOs, the greatest amount of time in WoW is often spent in travel, not actual content. When I can fly, I explore more, quest more, and from a fantasy game aspect, it feels more immersive, especially since Dwarves on gryphons is firmly grounded in the lore. Repeatable content (which is all Blizzard provides in the open world at max-level) by its very nature is tedious and flight relieves a great deal of that tedium. Player agency within an open world is a powerful concept and one Blizzard seems to have abandoned since Warlords.
As for bots, that's a nonsensical argument. Bots don't care if flight is allowed or not because they can circumvent restrictions anyways.
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Do you not have legs?
11/05/2018 06:18 PMPosted by OhenzoBesides, by the the time flying is released the new content will likely be "no fly" anyways.
Such blatant disregard for customer satisfaction and experience would never 'fly' in
the real workplace world. And the hubris demonstrated by developers who seem to not care in the least what their community thinks astounds me.
Item 1 on page 1 of the design doc states thusly:
"Drag out as many aspects of the game for a long as possible"
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Vote with your wallet. They will continue to do this as long as people like yourself pay them money every month.
11/05/2018 06:18 PMPosted by OhenzoSuch blatant disregard for customer satisfaction and experience would never 'fly' in the real workplace world.
1st... There are plenty of "customers" who are just fine with waiting a few months for flight to unlock. Everyone doesn't think the same way as you do and, contrary to "forum opinion", everyone isn't dissatisfied because of Pathfinder or being grounded for a bit.
2nd... These "real world workplace" and "the customer is always right" mentalities really need to go. Do you think Blizzard HQ is on Argus? Do you think the employees at Blizzard are dreaming that they go to work when really they live on Azeroth? Blizzard IS a "real world workplace". And... The customer IS NOT always right regardless of what you may think.
We have to wait because they said so. It is a good compromise between the "we want to fly NAU!" crowd and the "we don't want to fly at all crowd"...and there are players in both camps. We wait a while, they get their "no flight" play for a while. Plus, Blizz gets to "make happy" both sides.
The only people unhappy are the ones who can only see their own side, such as yourself. The ones who have some odd belief that anyone who goes against "their way" is "forcing" them into something they don't want but forget that "thier way" actually "forces" others into something they don't want.
Get over yourself. The wait is not all that long. Pathfinder isn't going anywhere. If you don't like it, Maplestory 2 is this way... ----->>.
11/06/2018 05:37 AMPosted by CaelinYeah that's how the rest of us feel now. We've done it. You are always welcome not to fly even when it is implemented. That really seems like a "you" problem.
Great, so you would support Blizzard adding an "instant kill" ability and giving it to everyone right? I mean if you find it trivializes content you don't have to use it, after all that was your point right?
Some features are so strong that even if you dislike them, you are forced to use them or be placed at a disadvantage. Flight is one of these features and honestly, I wish they would just remove it once and for all. I bet most the people who would threaten to quit wouldn't actually do it.
I like it, let's do it. I would be very interested to see where Blizzard ends up on that decision.
Go for it, Blizzard.
Ta hell with flying!!! I want Kul Tirans !!