What is the point of being on a game forum for a game you don’t even play or have on your computer (indicating you aren’t coming back)?
So you don’t agree with facts? Gotcha.
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Lets take a look:
For WoD: Tannan Jungle you can fly there
Legion: Broken Shore you can fly there.
Argus you can’t (and makes sense its a alien world thats shattered) (EDIT: It’s also actively trying to kill you, swarming with demons in the air so if you could fly it would be like Alctraz Island near by Theremore swarming with anti aircraft weapons and would be suicidal trying to fly where even the lightforge warframes fly low)
Places from TBC-MoP that you CAN’T fly in:
Sunwell Plateau
Silvermoon City
Exodar
Ghostlands
Azuremist Isle
Timless Isle
Isle of Thunder
Isle of Giants
Tol Brada
Vash’jir (However its entirely underwater BUT you can fly above the water)
OP you poin’t about not flying in new zones is invalid where ONLY 1 ZONE since Pathfinder was introduce can you not fly in and that’s Argus.
Man there are some garbage responses to this. BC was my favorite expansion, doesn’t mean I’m going to stand on ceremony and never level up past 70, or transmog my gear, or train new ranks of flying.
I prefer using my ground mount and I do it all the time, for my own immersion, to take in the world. Imo flying takes away some of the living feeling of the world but has its uses.
Either way with pathfinder it’s effectively useless in the content required to unlock it once you have pathfinder.
Temper, temper… rolleyes
Ion is a control-freak ex-lawyer who will never consider himself wrong. He’s so convinced he’s right that even when he’s completely, laughably wrong (blink is a heal) he just makes himself right in future expansions (azerite powers now heal you when you blink).
If every single one of the remaining 5 million players showed up at his house one at a time asking for flight, he would still insist it’s at a ‘happy middle ground’.
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Bzzzzzzt!!! So is Outland.
True… But the entire world of Argus is trying to activly kill you and is swarming with aerial ships/bats and you are trying to hid in canyons.
coughs up drink
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WoD would not have had flying at all had there not been backlash against the Memorial Day weekend obscure website admission of “no flying ever again in current content” leading to massive nearly instant unsubs. 2/3 of WoD had no flying and was pretty much obsolete content when Tanaan opened up.
Boring Chore only lasted as current content for 3 or 4 months before Argus made it pointless to be there.
The Blood Elf and Draenei starting zones don’t count. They are connected to Outland, instanced, and thus were not updated for flying in Cataclysm and per the devs won’t ever be.
Sunwell was a small daily area.
Tol Barad was a small PvP oriented optional daily area.
Timeless Isle was actually in the world that you could fly to then glide into and was again a small area with limited dailies.
Isle of Giants was a completely optional area that was not necessary for anything but optional cosmetics.
Isle of Thunder was relevant for a single patch before we moved back into a world with flying available at max level with gold.
You can fly slowly in Vashjir plus you get a zone specific mount for fast underwater flight. You could also largely skip Vash when current without missing any of the main story lines.
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So long as there isn’t a huge time gate like in legion to complete the campaign we should’t have any issues with getting Part 2 of Pathfinder.
I am ok with this. I dont feel it is an either/or thing however. I think it is a combination of knee jerk reactions and a demand for instant gratification. The devs could listen to feedback (which they have a history of either ignoring or misreading on purpose) and looking for ways to keep the integrity of the game while working to make it more enjoyable to the players.
The current relationship is almost adversarial and that is not healthy for anyone.
Imagine if it was zone based, having to complete the story arc (gives them the holy engagement method they want) before you can fly there.
No more pathfinder garbage, just “you have done this zone, congrats”
Could even use some silly restrictions, that enable bypassing if you are desperate, where its BC era 65% flying speed until you do so, so you can still technically fly, but if you want full 310 again, you need to do the zone. Have it reflect your mastery of the new areas thermals and wind flow or some nonsense.
There are sooo many ways they can get what they want, (meaningless engagement metrics to reflect their content being “good” to investors), and give players what they want. Flying without having to wait 2 years until they stop beta testing the live game.
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because now you are just trolling
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Agreed.
There are many ways that it can be done but right now it is a very poorly thought idea of gating flying. Original intent in WoD was to have an epic questline to unlock flying. What happened to that?
Except for the Vindicar just flying around, oh and warframes flying all over the place
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And thats the point of PF.
Do X the first time.
People whine, but do it.
Do Y the next time.
Fewer do it, but still whine
Do Z in the next expansion.
Even fewer get flight, still crying about it.
remove flight entirely, too few left to worry about it.
EVERYONE SHOULD have screamed about it at X and refused to give their $$$ while PF was part of the deal.
instead we ‘compromised’ ourselves right out of flight, which is clearly what Blizzard WANTED in WoD.
PF serves no purpose. Wasnt needed AT ALL.
Its to wean the player base off of flight.
Wait and see if Im wrong.
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Yup they want to remove flying completely. That is their end goal.
That is how they did it with portals. They first pruned MoP Portals, then they pruned Legion Dalaran portals. All deliberate.
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Just a note in passing - Outland is also an alien world that is shattered, and we can fly there. If you try flying too far into the Twisting Nether you die. So not being able to fly on Argus because its a broken planet isn’t really a good excuse.
I believe we should be able to fly in every zone of the game once it is open to us and we have met the level requirements. There is no logical reason why we should not be able to fly in any of those older zones. As far as the BC ones on Eastern Kingdom are concerned, its really just lazyness on their part. They could release them for flight if they just fixed the destroyed sections of Silvermoon. The rest would require nothing more than what was done to make Kalimdor and Eastern available for flight back in Cata.
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Doing the little chapters in each zone would have been more than enough to ‘earn’ it.
PF was never about earning flight, no matter what they claim.
They WANT to get rid of flight.
IF they didnt they’d never have pulled the stunt they did in WoD.
Nothing has changed. Theyre lazy and dont want to do the extra work flight apparently causes them to have to do.
they could give a REAL ‘compromise’ by putting up portals all over the known world, in every zone like ESO has.
no, its not flight but thats how a REAL compromise works. We dont get flight, but we get something thats in some ways better and some ways its worse.
sooner or later they ARE going to pull a WoD “no more flight” thing.
Count on it.
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This was the mistake of every player that values flying. We SHOULD have stood up at the start of WoD and said this will not happen and mass quit until flying was put back into the game like it was in BC, wrath, cata, and MoP.
We DID have the power to do it but it’s far too late for that now and look where we are…waiting a YEAR for the PRIVILAGE to fly by jumping through every conceivable hoop they can think to throw at us.
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