/shrug
(10 more characters)
I would actually be scared about flying in the Shadowlands. I would be worried if I accidentally dismounted that not only would I plummet to my death-death in nothingness, but worse yet my soul would get a ticket straight to the Maw.
That would be a cool mechanic actually that if you jumped off the edge you end up in the Tower of the Damned.
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Blizzard went with the compromise because people were willing to accept it. They really should have reversed it entirely because of the outrage.
If they hadn’t had such a backlash they would have removed it forever, that means they caved in only because they were forced to.
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The solution is give us our flying back at max level. Done. It does not have to be any more or less complicated.
Don’t like flying, then don’t do it. That is very simple and fair.
Everyone can play the way they want and use the mounts sold in the store the way they are intended.
The customer does not have to compromise any more than that.
I saw the art work while I was leveling and don’t have WM on ever and I found the horrible pathing around a mountain 10 times to get to a quest, don’t need to ever do those things again.
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Can’t say I agree with that; all or nothing gets us nowhere.
I think some of the PF requirements for old content could do with revisiting. I feel like Legion and Draenor make perfect sense if it’s left with zone questing, Garrison/Class Hall campaigns and exploration while ditching treasures, WQs and reputation. When BfA becomes old content, same thing…questing, War campaign and exploration.
I’m fine with how PF operates in current content, including the rep requirements, but I feel like P1 should unlock flying for the launch content and P2 should unlock it for patched in content.
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They have the choice to honor their word in WoD and have flying in the game, when they mislead us about that and got called on it, they added pathfinder as “their” compromise, not mine.
the choice was simple, flying at max level. Done. It is not pathfinder or nothing. they made up pathfinder to cover their arsssses and now call it a compromise gated 8 months too late.
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Have they said how it was going to work going forward with Shadowlands?
I don’t want to fly in Shadowlands as I don’t want to fall off off the edge and end up in the maw.
Anyone that knows how things went down in WoD knows the whole pathfinder stuff is nothing but a punishment to the players for not allowing Blizzard to take away flying.
It’s like “won’t let us take flying away, fine now you have to do all the content, grind reps AND wait a year. But hey we listened and kept flying so you’re happy right?” Makes me irritated.
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Does “do these tasks, and then we’ll actually give you the reward a year later” seem pretty standard for video games? Because I would think once you’ve done the requirement it would be available immediately.
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Of course they have zero details - the xpac is just an idea right now, nothing is worked on or developed. They said they would have some sort of pathfinder because they enjoy it as a team (or Ion).
Hey look, another pointless, waste of breath flight thread.
Pathfinder is staying people. Deal with it.
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Then you have a choice to not fly. Problem solved.
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Always find the argument “If you don’t like flying, don’t” to be very silly. Like I’m just playing a solo game where only what I do affects me. I just came back to the game and haven’t earned the new reps for Pathfinder 2, so I am running around the ground. I’m cool with that doing solo content, but no one wants to group with a guy lagging behind them when we’re doing something like Call to Arms quests desperately searching for Horde who we can shoot down with net-o-matics (and if that player dies from the fall, only one person gets quest credit, so that’s lame).
If you play the world content by yourself 100% of the time and don’t interact with other players than I guess choosing not to fly makes sense. However if you actually want to experience things in world content, flying being available is frustrating.
Now I get that removing flying completely would be insane, the cat is out the bag and the expectation to fly exists. We all have lots of mounts (some even paid for with cash) that would be awkward to see run on the ground. But the idea that flying isn’t detrimental to ‘no-flyers’ if they simply choose not to just doesn’t hold water.
There are decisions made for game-design purposes that restrict players, always. I wouldn’t get mad at the developers of Breath of the Wild because I can’t fly around the world (skipping all of the content). Now of course WoW introduced flying so again you can’t get rid of it, but dismissing the game design value of restrictions is naive, I think.
Pathfinder same as always. Then they were met with way more boos than cheers.
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Pathfinder was the single worst thing that has been added to this game. From BC through MoP, flying was available at max level and it was not a problem. The game was way more fun back then, for this and other reasons as well. Subscriber numbers clearly show this.
Don’t try to tell me you couldn’t afford the mounts at max level. You couldn’t afford a fast flying mount at max level in BC, but regular mount was easily achievable at max. The other expansions had flying easily attainable when hitting max level as well. I did not like spending so much gold on flying, but it was way better than not having it.
The current Crapfinder system is only there as a result of spite from Blizzard. If it was just to experience the content, flying would be unlocked with Loremaster of the new zones. There should be no addition of arbitrary months of waiting, and a few more weeks of boring and pointless rep grinding after that.
The “no flying ever” camp have classic they can play.
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Except that Breath of the Wild doesn’t time gate the content or have you repeating the same content day in and day out just to string flying along.
I wouldn’t mind a bit of pathfinder stayed…even the god awful gated reps if it actually unlocked flying with part 1 instead of spitefully time gating it for a year.
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Aside from time-played metrics, there is zero reason for the months-long gap between P1 and P2. That’s the problem I think most people have with PF. If they removed the P2, or at least the wait between P1 and P2, I’d be fine with PF. Have us explore zones, complete storyline quests, and then let us be able to fly over the zones we’ve already experienced.
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You sound like flying cost a fortune before Pathfinder. it did not, less when you got as questrewards levelling.
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Same as BfA. The concept at least.