Seriously, I guess the competency crisis is real
Flanking Strike is (currently) on a 30s CD
Raptor Strike is a 3s CD, 20% chance to reset the buff
The buff lasts 10s.
This means you get 2 20% chances to refresh the buff, and your only other melee rotation ability is on a 30s CD (which is ok, because you’ll actually get it reset maybe once every 15s.
Why is the buff not 30s?
I think you are reading that wrong. “Raptor Strike has a 20% chance to reset the cooldown on Flanking Strike.” Raptor strike resets the CD, not the buff.
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The buff is a 10s buff, increasing Raptor/Mongoose damage for 10 seconds
The buff stacks up to 3 times
To apply the buff, you need to use Flanking Strike
To reset the 30s CD of Flanking Strike, you have a 20% chance when you Raptor strike
You will, at most, get 2 chances to Raptor Strike and then Flanking Strike before the buff expires
And? You clearly are not meant to stack the buff to 30% for the entirety of the fight. Stacking to 30% will be an act of generous RNG that will grant you a pretty massive buff.
Why would you assume massive RNG is the design philosophy, when just about every other rune just adds rotation?
For all those melee hunter abilities, right?
Lmao
does flanking strike not add rotation? be happy youre getting SOMETHING for melee hunter and youre not shafted like the 2h enhance shamans.
Flanking Strike is meant to make melee weaving more interesting. Hunter wont have a fully viable melee build (hopefully).
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I might be losing my mind here, but won’t you have 3 chances fairly often? It’s a 3 second cooldown, that’s one at 1.5 sec (one gcd), another at 4.5, another at 7.5, then after gcd it’s 9 sec, that gives you a full second to reapply the buff if you got cooldown reset on any of those.
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hunters are about to be main tanking BFD with their pets while being the top dps by a mile (maybe competing with ret pallies if theyre unchanged) and this guy is crying about not having a legion style melee hunter to press all the glowy buttons on to satiate his ADHD.
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Last time I looked, Lava Burst and Ele Overload autoproccing Flurry with double wf is going to be pretty cool. It’s almost like those interactions work together or something.
And if you’re not playing melee, flanking strike is pointless compared to other choices.
i might be bad at math but if raptor strike is a 3 second CD, and the buff last 10 seconds. It seems like you would get 3 chances to proc it instead of 2…
Shamans are such weird creatures. “WE HAVE 4 PLAYSTYLES CATERED TO, WON’T YOU THINK OF OUR 5TH!??!?!” Meanwhile Hunters are just asking for one of the two we get to actually make sense.
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So honestly i think it might not be a bad idea to have raptor strike have a chance to refresh the buff on hit, but also on a crit has a chance reset your flanking strike’s cd. That way the chance to refresh your buff could be higher say 35-40% since you are not applying another stack just keeping the buff alive, while the chance to reset the cd of your flanking strike could than be lower say 15-20%. Though i would rather have this split where raptor strike refreshes the buff, and say mongoose resets flanking strike’s cd, buit for that to work outside of a tanking set up you would need a reliable method of proccing mongoose strike to be usable.
Though i do wish they would look into reworking how mongoose strike and counter attack works, such as that when a melee hunter has a hunter’s mark applied to a target if that target has an attack parried or dodged (maybe add blocked) mongoose an counter attack can be used. This way we have a use for them outside of attempting to use them in a melee hunter tank type scenario.
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The window after the third FS is maybe, maybe going to be a full second. If you’ve jammed every single RS, and haven’t had any animation clipping when you put down a trap (which will be part of your rotation, because you’re in melee and you need things to do damage).
This will be every single refresh instance, because the buff timer does not stack, just the damage.
This is part of what I’m pointing out, that the timer on the buff itself makes no sense. Is a 15 second timer for a stacking buff, for the main damage source, such a hard thing to see is necessary?
If the 30% damage isn’t necessary to balance, why is it there?
If it is, why isn’t it possible to maintain somewhat reliably?
This isn’t 2005, I don’t think these are unreasonable questions.
People also need to realize that we are capped at LV25! Nobody has access to their full toolkit yet. Why are y’all acting like we have a Naxx raid this weekend?
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I’m vaguely hoping hunter gets a tank spec, just so Mongoose Bite makes sense
And you don’t even need to add more stuff to the buff: make it 30s. Or even 20s.
And I don’t get why the melee hunter spec, which is the only vaguely outside the box hunter spec, should be not viable at 25 when all the other “additional spec” runes seem more than viable at 25
It will be viable at 25. You seem to be comparing lv25 hunters to lv60 everything else. Again, we are talking about lv25, healer heal dungeons at this level with less than a handful of items with int on it in their leveling spec. It’s not that hard.
Mongoose Bite is bad no matter the context. There is never a time where you would want to press that button. At level 25, you will have rank 1 Mongoose Bite, and it will do 25 flat damage. I don’t even remember if it scales with attack power, I just remember being so disappointed in it that I removed the keybind entirely at some point because it was a straight waste of mana.
So i can agree that they need to modify mongoose bite damage wise, and mechanic wise. If they had it that we had a way to reasonably proc mongoose bite to use it, than i would say make mongoose bite be how we reset the cd of flanking strike between using our raptor strikes. Even if it did say X% weapon damage while needing the target’s attacks to have been blocked/dodged/parried to proc it’s use, than it would be worth using for the fact that you could get flanking strike back off cd.
The devs want feedback. Should we sit on our hands until warriors are doing double everyone else’s damage again?
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