Fixing the PVP Gear complaints

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Why not use current tier systems available to do the same thing with PVP gear?

Current raid tier:
Mythic: 475, 485 last 2 bosses
Heroic: 460
Normal: 445
LFR: 430

Why not make PvP gear scale up +15 item levels when War Mode is toggled or in Battlegrounds or Arenas?

Therefore, PvE gear would remain an OPTION, but not a requirement to PvP AND PvE gear would still remain the best option for PvE.

Essentially it would look like this:

PVP Gear via Conquest, rating-locked: 460 PvE, 475 PvP
PVP Gear via Conquest, no rating lock: 445 PvE, 460 PvP
“Blue” Craftable PVP Gear: 430 PvE, 445 PvP
Chest reward for capping Conquest: +10 ilvls higher than your tier.

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PVE gear is required because of BiS stat distribution and certain procs.

let me give you an example with uhdk stats for pvp:
str>haste>verse>mastery>stam>crit

here’s the stats for meme/reanimation specs:
haste>stam>verse>mastery>str>crit

do you know what blizz gives dks from pvp gearing? crit and haste or crit and verse. if i want haste and verse i have to go find a piece with that.

the other issue is ilvl, if mythic raiding and 2400+ are the benches in raiding and arena for 475, then M+ is flying off the chain with ilvl, a +15 and chest needs to be dropping a 460 and 475 shouldn’t drop until +20.

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This x1000. I don’t understand why high end pvp gear is damn near impossible to get but m+ gives high end gear out like candy.

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You mean like in Warlords of Draenor, the gearing system that almost no players complained about that was completely stripped from the game for no logical reason whatsoever? Yes, I agree.

Also this is accurate as well.

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I really just want a casual scaled mode for battle grounds and one for arenas. Like the classic av bg. but for current content rewards.

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It is not only accurate… it’s the actual core of the problem. People keep saying that PvPers have to PvE, the real issue is that M+ is just too easy to get gear through from what I understand. If +15 is meant to be the equivalent of Gladiator and Cutting-Edge, the tuning has utterly failed.

My guess what happened here is that Blizzard wanted more people to see the cool +10 affixes and so they messed with the tuning so +10 would be more accessible, and by nature that brought the challenge level of +15 WAYYYY down. Just my best guess though.

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Why not add some more RNG to the mix then? Blizzard likes RNG. Bring back the “of the ______” variations to gear. That way you can get the stats you want from PVP gear.

Also bring back the “rerolling” items you could craft to change that affix.

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Well they are taking a step forward in reigning in Mythic+ gearing in SLs by reducing the number of items from the end of instance chest. But it does scale up way to quickly.

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Makes sense. The fact that Blizzard compares, gear wise, timing/completing a 15 to consistently winning arena matches above 2400 rating just shows how out of touch they are with their community, and their game.

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WOD gearing had it right. Let’s just do that. Problem solved.

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Just an FYI, I don’t know if you’ve looked at the new vendor, every piece of loot has three different versions with different stat configurations. It isn’t impossible that all three configurations are “sub-optimal” but it is a big step in the right direction short of just letting you craft exactly the stats you want.

But WoW is an RPG so honestly it is really a problem if you can get a minor benefit from getting a better itemized item from another piece of content, as long as your PvP gear loot is like 99.X% good enough?