Fix your game

I like how I’m a fresh level 90 and get kicked from a dungeon it allowed me to queue for, and then I get a 30 minute deserter debuff on top of everything. Yeah, really makes me want to continue playing when things like this happen.

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Did you queue into a celestial with a bunch of quest greens and blues at bare minimum ilvl req? Just because a person CAN do things while underpowered in this game (enter raids 2 lvls low etc.) doesn’t mean your group needs to accept it.

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If the game lets me queue for something, then I expect to be able to do it. That’s why they give you a minimum ilvl requirement to queue. If I get kicked because people don’t want to deal with someone with lower gear (lower DPS as a result), even though I’m able to do the content, I shouldn’t be punished with a 30 minute timeout. You have the same mentality as the asshats in this community that are ruining this game. A bad superiority complex.

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This is all I could picture in my head reading this tantrum thread.
https://shorturl.at/2IiGk

Anyway, this guide goes over how to get 470 ilvl in like 30m
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

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Why do you picture little kids in your head?

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You’re part of the problem with this game’s community. A real douchebag. That’s who’s ruining it others.

Updated my post with a link to a guide for you. Hope it helps!

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Sounds like you picked the wrong celestial buff, or did not pick one at all. If you’re tanking, you pick Blessing of Xuen.

the game lets you queue for it, just as it lets the group kick you for whatever reason they deem valid. everything is working as intended

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Idk what you talking about. I did a lot of celestial dungeons on several characters (i think more then 50 dungeons total) as random player, and i was never kicked, kicking other players for dumb reason (DPS or something like this) was initiated only 2 or 3 times of 50+ dungeons, and all of those times votekick failed (so at least 1 more player except of me voted no). So statistically kicks for dumb reasons happen very rare, and if you are getting kicked too often, probably, you have some very big problems.

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Why would you pick Blessing of Xuen over Blessing of Niuzao?

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You don’t. Niuzao is way better after the buffs.

I think I saw 1 kick and I ran prolly 100 celestials.

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I haven’t seen many, and I’ve run a lot also.

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For the simple fact that it does GOBs of dps, healers really don’t need the tank buff, and you’re doing a disfavor without taking it.

It’s not. Healers are amazing and the buff is irrelevant (just like your post).

The context was tanking. So I’m just curious why you would choose Xuen, and recommend it.

I have been using Niuzao while tanking, and from trying out different buffs, it seems to be to be the best in terms of damage output as well as other things, and I would assume that an undergeared tank (assuming OP is undergeared, whether tanking or not, idk) would benefit a lot more from 20 stacks of 6% stam and 4% primary stat than 15% primary and some jumping lightning dmg every 3 seconds.

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I don’t need healers. Niuzao lets me solo carry the entire dungeon with 1 mil hp and 200k shield barriers. That’s the point of it. The minor dps value of Xuen can’t compete with removing a moron from the equation.

If you’re duoing with healer, definitely take xuen or even the caster one idc. It doesn’t matter at that point.

Correct. You want the DPS buff of Xuen as a tank over Niuzoa. It’s an over all DPS increase that benefits the party and kills mobs faster. I’ve never had a problem with choosing Xuen and have done VASTLY more dps as a guardian druid tank compared to the crappy Niuzoa buff. You’re just holding everyone back at that point if you choose the tank buff.

Hmm… I’ll give it a try again, and let you know how it goes. Seems to me that an 80% buff to Agility might not be worse than a 15% buff to agil + 20K bouncing lightning every 3 seconds, but I guess we’ll see (and that’s not even considering the 120% to stam, which might be helpful for lower geared tanks).

I’ll do a couple of runs of each, and post back. (I was pretty sure I tried Xuen and it wasn’t as good, but I didn’t actually log anything).

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It was like 5% of my damage on most pulls. Outside of the giga pulls where I’m already popping bloodbath bladestorm. Having an extra 500k hp and a ton of parry from str conversion was more valuable to me.

Esp with pug healers. Can’t trust them to do anything.