Fix Torghast

[Revkek-misha]

@Pigstick-grobbulus

Stop pretending you have any idea what you’re talking about

Boy what a response that adds so much depth to what is being discussed.

[Zugfox-wyrmrest-accord]

@Revkek-misha

You run in, interrupt, leap out. Unless your health pool is so small that the aoe instantly 2 shots you, in which case why are you in basic quest gear .

Another option is to Los pillar hump, to bring the boss to you.

I have 26k HP. I’m not in basic quest gear. And yes, the AOE almost instantly kills you.

You can keep arguing but you’ve not provided me with any solution to beat this boss with my 26k HP pool and 2x 10k HP healing pots. If I don’t get any mitigation or HP boosts from the anima powers he is impossible.

[Shadowstalkx-dalaran (Shadowstalkx)]

I agree. They swung the nerf bat waaay too far in the other (wrong) direction. For a casual like me, it just means I’m going to gain soul ash at a slower pace by doing layer 3/4 (maybe layer 5 on my tank if things aren’t TOO hard now). I have nothing to gain except a small amount of soul ash by killing myself figuratively to try to beat higher layers. I’ll do the layers I can comfortably do in a reasonable amount of time and be done with it.

[Revkek-misha]

@Zugfox-wyrmrest-accord

I have 26k HP. I’m not in basic quest gear. And yes, the AOE almost instantly kills you.

You have multiple 158 pieces

You are hitting one of those dreaded gear checks issues.

@Zugfox-wyrmrest-accord

You can keep arguing but you’ve not provided me with any solution to beat this boss with my 26k HP pool and 2x 10k HP healing pots. If I don’t get any mitigation or HP boosts from the anima powers he is impossible.

Pillar humping intensifies.

[Zugfox-wyrmrest-accord]

@Revkek-misha

You have multiple 158 pieces

You are hitting one of those dreaded gear checks issues.

Now we know you’re just spewing nonsense because you feel like dying on your hill for whatever reason.

[Revkek-misha]

@Zugfox-wyrmrest-accord

Now we know you’re just spewing nonsense because you feel like dying on your hill for whatever reason.

What the hell are you talking about, you are literally going in with sub par gear, refusing to LoS casts.

You either need to git gud, or outgear it. That is just a fact, and right now you have several slots that you can easily upgrade via CQ / honor gear to make your life much easier.

[Jaymes-malygos]

If you have content that can’t be accomplished without gear/rewards/buffs that are gated by said content, you kill fun.

I need the golden sword to kill the dragon, yet the sword is behind the dragon, and you have given me NO WAY of getting to the sword, yet you expect me to kill the dragon?

You see the logic loop?

No, you dont.

[Yinde-nazjatar]

I haven’t seen a single pillar to hump or any LoS breaking object in any of the boss rooms.

[Thugnazty-kelthuzad]

Torghast is horrible. It is not enjoyable at all. If I wanted randomly generated dungeons I would play Diablo. Just spent an hour and a half clearing 5 floors which was challenging as a solo player, only to get to the last boss and find out it is impossible to kill. Literally IMPOSSIBLE to kill solo. Kill me on the first floor so I don’t waste my time maybe? Or just remove this garbage from the game altogether. Give me soul ash from Mythic+ or something.

Torghast is garbage. No one I play with likes it. “Uhg… I have to do Torghast…” Is what I see in guild chat. NEVER “Awesome another level of Torghast to clear this week, yay!” . I dare you to take a poll of who like Torghast and who doesn’t.

[Zugfox-wyrmrest-accord]

@Yinde-nazjatar

I haven’t seen a single pillar to hump or any LoS breaking object in any of the boss rooms.

Me neither, hence why I think this guy is clearly trolling.

[Jape-silver-hand (Jape)]

7k DPS on Floor 5 with 2 people? Did you get 0 dps powers?

[Umontar-ashkandi]

@Zugfox-wyrmrest-accord

hence why I think this guy is clearly trolling.

*Shilling

/10 chars

[Revkek-misha]

@Yinde-nazjatar

haven’t seen a single pillar to hump or any LoS breaking object in any of the boss rooms.

@Zugfox-wyrmrest-accord

Me neither, hence why I think this guy is clearly trolling.

Several of the boss arenas literally have cages and massive spikes that you can use to LoS. Use them.

[Qijung-wyrmrest-accord]

Gurgthock - Character - WoW

why arent you running torghast, ion

[Omne-dentarg (Omne)]

@Jaymes-malygos

If you have content that can’t be accomplished without gear/rewards/buffs that are gated by said content, you kill fun.

I need the golden sword to kill the dragon, yet the sword is behind the dragon, and you have given me NO WAY of getting to the sword, yet you expect me to kill the dragon?

Fun story, but not what is actually happening in this case. To abuse your metaphor a little;

1. You don’t need the sword, others have killed that dragon without it.
2. There are a lot of other easier dragons that can be killed to improve your current sword before you take on the hard one.
3. This might be less an issue with the sword and more of an issue with the wielder.

Or to put it another way

@Jaymes-malygos

If you have content that can’t be accomplished without gear/rewards/buffs that are gated by said content

We don’t have this situation, so everything that followed it can be ignored.

[Amayna-garona (Amayna)]

@Gerbil-netherwind

1.6 million hp on the last floor boss upper reaches, starts one-shotting players. We have a combined DPS of 7k with an unholy DK and a Mistweaver monk. IMPOSSIBLE.

WASTING HOURS OF TIME FOR UNINSPIRED, POORLY-TUNED GAMEPLAY IS NOT FUN.

Do you even test these things before you just release them? People are UNHAPPY.

Oppressively high hit points and damage do not make for a fun encounter especially for gated content that’s needed for other parts of the game that are actually fun.

PLEASE FIX YOUR GAME. If these things are this hard for GOOD players what do you expect the majority of your mediocre player base to do? FIX TORGHAST.

Fix it or I’m taking my credit card and going somewhere else.

I think the problem is this, those harder bosses are for later, much later! we have 2 or 3 years to go here, I could be wrong, but at this point I think it makes reasonable sense

[Zaralintha-wyrmrest-accord]

Maybe if there was more to it than just soul ash (and apparently a mount at floor 8?).

It feels terrible if I do all the floors. Yaay, I get to see a currency number go up. If I mess up and die - it also feels terrible because I wasted time for…a currency and now I have to do it all over again to get the fricken currency.

I really cannot see myself repeating Torghast past a week or two from now when I have enough soul ash to upgrade my legendary to a reasonable level and then can just leave it there. It’s not particularly enjoyable - just mildly interesting depending on the powers I get (or frustrating if RNG screws me over)

[Ellestra-bronzebeard]

Doesn’t Torghast scale in difficulty based on your ilvl? I think that’s why they don’t have recommended ilvls on the layer descriptions.

[Sabali-emerald-dream]

1.) I think Blizzard needs to impliment ilvl restrictions - or at very least recommendations - on each of the levels.

2.) Blizzard needs to fix the difficulty scale. It is bad design to have the entire run be relatively chill and easy, only to have the last guy basically be impossible. If the last guy is pretty much impossible for you, Torghast should be kicking you out on floor 1 and 2.

[Gnomerpiles-thrall (Gnomerpiles)]

adding mob health is the new adding content for blizzard to get the gamn out the door