Horde 90+% win ratio is unacceptable. Fix this Blizzard.
Day 2 saw a lot of discussion. Keep it going boys, be the change.
It’s so comically bad that the ally strat is to just kill NPC lieutenants and commanders for honor then wait for game to end with a horde win.
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Whats so comical is retail players coming in here acting like they know what is really going on. Log on to ur classic toon before adding ur 2 cents.
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I mean, that’s what happens when you base behavior on min-max.
Turns out, the most mathematically efficient strategy, THAT YOU CAN CONTROL, for gaining rep/honor in AV, is to just dunk the commanders/lts, and then afk out if you think the game will last longer than eating the debuff. If you think it will end before the debuff then you do whatever you can to hasten its end. If that means sitting off to the side fishing or caving, so be it.
That’s how it’s always going to be if one side has virtually no queue time.
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That’s because it’s pretty much the only option, once SHGY falls.
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Can we talk about how as far as the game is concerned this entire chunk of a hill doesn’t exist? This turns this graveyard into shooting fish in a barrel for Horde. You respawn and are instantly barraged by various attacks that you can’t see the origin of because they’re flying through a 30 foot hill.
https://i.imgur.com/cscNStj.jpg
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This is my main and only character. Just started playing again to check Classic out.
Who would have thought running straight into Horde at Stonehearth Bunker, instead of the majority going to Horde towers, was never a good plan?
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The only fruitful discussion we have had is figuring out the alliance has no clue how to play AV.
They are so dumb they don’t even know why you would kill LT’s. So stupid they don’t do turn ins. So lame they don’t cap objectives.
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In other words, you have no education or experience on the topic this thread pertains to & you’re trying to discuss. Let me give you a hint: reroll horde, you’ll fit in with the zugbrains better if you’re the type to make unfounded claims.
Or go back to retail.
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Yep, like this. These are exactly the type of unfounded claims I was referring to. Good example.
I would like to repeat this;
Me war, me know best.
Hint: No you dont and keep lying to urself to make urself feel better. I think we all know who the real dumb one is here.
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Blizz make the Alliance win.
k thanks
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You’re still queueing for AV? I know the grind to exalted sucks but just tough it out and then never queue up again.
Evidently, av in australia, eu and Asia are all quite even with win rate (maybe slightly skewed in hordes favor on the two latter).
So why are alliance so much more successful in these regions if there is no other change to the map aside the players themselves?
Maybe NA alliance should take a look in the mirror or try joining as a horde pug and realize how well coordinated and eager to do anything to win compared to the NA alliance who literally could not care to get anything other than their participation trophy.
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This thread is 4 days old. Shouldn’t there be a FIX AV DAY 7 thread?
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Pservers had the same exact AV map design as Classic does. The win rates were still pretty close to 50/50 for both sides. Funny how that works. 
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You played on bad pservers if they used 1.12’s AV.
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Both Europe, Asia, and private servers have balanced win rates. This is obviously a player issue not a balance issue. Alliance keep losing, we need to try different strategies if we want to win. Problem is most of us aren’t there to try to win, instead caring only about honor. Too many of us also have defeatist attitudes.
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[citation needed]
The one pic of eu that gets spread around is anecdotal evidence at best & 9 out of 10 games shown were quick matches, which shows the horde there didn’t utilize their defensive standpoint at IBG, and their forums are rife with the same complaints. Asian players both still just zerg, as in haven’t adapted the new metas on either side and are playing outdated strategies - they’re bad players even if what you say is true. Which, again, is lacking proof.
Give us 1.5 AV retuned for 1.12 itemization/talents and the entire game will be better off for it.
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