The bug is with you devs invalidating literally full time job’s worth of hours to farm echoes actually. This is pathetic, it really is. This is developer incompetence is what it is. Who suffers from this? THE PLAYERS. I know people who put in over 50 hours of work farming these corruptions and now it is time wasted.
Call it a bug all you want, but this has been happening since before the corruption hot fix. People have been doing it for awhile now. What you all lack as developers is the foresight into what will happen from the things you implement. You all charge recklessly forward with awful ideas constantly nowadays and it is us, the players, who get screwed time and time again.
Glad I didn’t stack ineffable, would be super ticked off if I was someone who did.
PS LITERALLY EVERY PALADIN KNEW ABOUT THIS WHEN THE VENDOR CAME OUT. THE ENTIRE ARENA FORUM KNEW ABOUT THIS!
How can you go an ENTIRE WEEK with ineffable on vendors with people farming echoes only to call it a bug after the fact? HOW?! HOW!? HOOOOOWWWWW!?!?!?!??!?! It is DISGRACEFUL!
Is it really a “bug” if it’s been around for 5 months, people have been playing around it and making builds around it with no communication from the devs saying that it is unintended? Disregarding the fact that 8.3 was on the PTR in October of last year and all these effects were tested out back then, it’s ridiculous that it’s only just been “found” now. This has been the known interaction since it came out, it’s just possible to stack to more extreme levels now. Would it not be a bug if we couldn’t purposefully stack IT? Would this even have been addressed?
Holy priests as mentioned above, Demon Hunters (flat CD from demonic appetite). Ineffable Truth has been out for 4 months, how are we supposed to know that the increased CD reduction isn’t intended?
Why didn’t you address this eight days ago when people were farming it? Yeah, it’s not fun to fight against, but I’d rather deal with something stupid than to watch other players just have their effort invalidated because you as developers suck at your job. EIGHT DAYS AGO MAN! EIGHT FRIGGIN DAYS AGO! You’re bringing this up after they’ve spent and farmed all the echoes??!??
Does the idea of time sensitive mean nothing to you people at all? Give everyone who bought this their echoes back… Seriously. This is such a massive oversight. You literally just dogged on so many people with this.
Seriously, daddy blizzard, plz do not waste your resources on this. This is not a bug, but an exaggeration. And just after we spend entire week farming for Ineffable Truth, now you telling us this is a bug and will be fixed? Where is your fix in the last 3 months?
Hey can you fix the bug that causes ineffable to lock you out for longer than normal? People getting warlock csd for 16 seconds in pvp definitely more gamebreaking than this. Also some pvp gear not being corruptable is also a huge problem.
Outside of excessive stacking, not affecting flat CD reductions on abilities would be more likely to be seen as a bug, since it makes the corruption way weaker than the % indicates. To use the obvious example above, holy priest:
200% IT is 20s off CDs during the buff. Cast two of your main healing spell during those 10 seconds and you’ve shaved 22s off a holy word during that time (10s base recovery + 12s from abilities), meaning “200%” IT is not even doubling your CD recovery, let alone tripling it.
This corruption is basically being dumpstered for exactly the specs that liked it, just after it was purchasable, to apparently fix a specific issue, while calling an interaction most would assume makes sense and is intended a bug.
If you really must, just nerf fist of justice or something. Please don’t include “and similar abilities”.
Can you please clarify if this hotfix will affect only the cooldown rate applied by Ineffable Truth, or will it also affect the cooldown rate applied by other similar effects?
Additionally, are you planning to hotfix specific abilities, such as Fist of Justice, or will this apply to all sources of flat cooldown reduction?
There are a significant number of interactions across many specializations that benefit from this interaction with flat cooldown reduction and cooldown recharge rates. Hotfixing all of them at once could be pretty problematic.
As an example, Fire Mages currently utilize the massive increase in cooldown rate of Fire Blast from large amounts of Haste and the Memory of Lucid Dreams essence. This allows the Hyperthread Wristwraps to grant 3 full charges of Fire Blast. If this change were to affect these sources of cooldown rate, then the Hyperthread Wristwraps would restore less than 1 charge of Fire Blast and the current Combustion rotation Fire Mages are using would change significantly.
I think unless they’re affecting the cooldown reduction interaction from haste as part of the “effects that increase your cooldown rate (such as Ineffable Truth)”, I don’t think this will impact that. That seems like it would be a pretty big change.
Can you just stop trying to ‘fix’ things? The expansion is almost over. You created this dichotomy with corruption interactions that people have found ways to make interesting, and now you’re just taking it away, and for what?
Whelp, there goes my whole build I had before purchasable ineffable truth… This is far more damaging than you’d think for some people who build around something that is just straight up nuked without notice.
Perhaps just make it PVP restricted so ineffable truth can still have its value in PVE, but not be broken in PVP? I don’t understand why it’s a choice of. “Oh something’s not right? NUKE IT FOR ALL FORMS OF CONTENT!”
Seems odd that they didn’t care about this “bug” until more people got to take advantage of it. Wasn’t like it was a secret before, was it?
Maybe once they balance corruptions they’ll be willing to get rid of the annoying vendor rotation. Seems like the vendor rotation’s purpose is to give them time to fix outliers as more people stack certain corruptions so they don’t have a lot of things to fix all at once.
Is IT magnifying the amount holy words get reduced by when you cast a spell on top of speeding up their natural cooldown rate?
You think they’re going to balance corruptions now, if they didn’t bother balancing them on the PTR and in the months before the vendor was added?
In usual Blizzard fashion they’ll nerf the outliers and pretend the other broken issues don’t exist. And apparently they’re going to call them “bugs” to save face on their lack of foresight in designing the system.
