literally changed nothing about anything I’ve said tonewise. And definitely not via a prompt from you. That’s the irony here, I’m just repeating myself. /fireworks
I leveled from 1-300 on the bench in Dornagol and caught every fish lol. I think you need to throw stuff back to get better catches in regular water. Dunno what the ghoul fish are for though.
which zone? what perception? what skill bonus?
I’m at 80% fish rate in the starting pool in dornogal with 2 green fishing items and keeping all the buffs up.
You want an example of your text then?
Ok…
what part of each zone has a recommended skill level aren’t you getting? If you go to azh-kahet you skill up insanely slower than the starting pool next to donogal, you know, as evidenced by you skilling up insanely slower
Not sure how you view that comment…
You said you are 100 skill after 3 hours: you’re doing it wrong. Frustrating, but don’t shoot the messenger.
Again, what part of each zone having a recommended level wasn’t clear from my post discussing it? And why did stating that turn into a discussion of “how it shouldn’t work that way.”
My only regret is that this is obscuring the actual information of the thread and how fishing works in TWW. It wasn’t meant to be a brainstorming session of opinion and anecdote.
you have now changed your tone. Thanks for doing that.
As I stated, I completeley agreed that you have an opinion yourself. And, I appreciate you trying to explain that.
However, as I stated earlier, since pathfinder is out, bots can fly with regular flying now and they will fish pools. This will decrease the number of pools available for regular fisher people.
Bots can and will do this and you know that’s the case. (Edited) thus, defeating the entire purpose of forcing people to fish pools.
I mean, this was the information, the rest was, uh, “toning it down?”
sheesh, that was what, 20% information, 80% me me me me
Exactly. I remember fishing back when I started in Wrath. It was guaranteed that you would only catch junk for quite some time in open water and everyone knew that because it was basically an RP approach at that time, as much of the game still was. It was expected that you were a learner fisher getting better at it each time you missed or only managed to hook that shoe or rubbish fish. Then as your level increased you would gradually get more and more low level fish, and would need to improve even further as you went to higher level zones.
This situation however isn’t anything like that. Sitting there with 75 level fishing, with a bisimuth fisherfriend rod and a hat, I should be catching useable fish at least 1 in every 5 casts. At least.
And if the idea of it being to stop botting is true, then its a crashingly bad idea because its a profession and players wishing to play it shouldn’t be punished because of some bot. They just need to do their job and address the botting issue from a different approach that doesn’t disadvantage the rest of us.
Regardless, fishing in open water SHOULD allow you to catch fish. Fish live everywhere. Now, catching some junk AND fish should be possible.
It is possible, though, as explained in depth previously.
Hasn’t this been well established since 2004? Low fishing levels give more junk. High fishing levels start to see fish. Pools are always available as a way to circumvent this.
I’ve spent the last 30 minutes leveling fishing in Isle of Dorn. Nothing but junk until 100 or so, now I’m seeing fish drops every so often. That’s only going to improve. This is how it is in the game as of right now. It’s verifiable.
Btw I’m using Gubber Blump’s Family Fishing Pole so I only have a +3 to fishing from outside sources.
Clearly, pools are going to be better, but the concern has been completely overblown in this thread. Don’t worry everyone, you can still sit still and fish. Just have some patience. Fishing is all about patience.
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I just miss the simple pre-WoD days of “fly to zone, fish up 1 specific type of fish from a specific body of water and any pools there, then cook it 1:1 into Main Stat food using only a Basic Campfire and some spices.”
By contrast, TWW requires pool chasing exclusively, 3-4 pieces of fishing gear, 2-3 pieces of cooking gear, and 5-6 ingredients to make food that only buffs your secondary stats. The results-to-effort ratio is awful and utterly kills any desire I had upon expansion start to invest in either profession.
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You’re skipping the previously required step of “Level up fishing from 1 to 600 by fishing up 600+ irrelevant fish that are only used in old recipes to be Zen Master fisher.” Which again started with a bunch of junk catches (not that you wanted that darkshore grouper at that point of the game anyway). Things change as time goes on; some things we miss, some we don’t. That’s all subjective.
I don’t think professions requiring optimization/thought is a negative, but that’s my subjective opinion.
I do agree that this information can be better presented in-game than it is currently. Though the fishing journal has some decent preliminary info to start you off, I don’t see it talking much or at all about perception.
I’ve maxxed out my fishing. I’ve got no issue. But it’s possible you can’t fish under a certain level in TWW zones.
You must not have started fishing on a new character recently. I had a low level character (level 10) on a server that I planned to use to fish up some treasures - taught him fishing, sent him outside to fish and in under level 20 fishing I was getting regular useable fish, without a fishing rod or any bait.
I don’t call level 18 fishing a high level. If you cant see a difference between level 18 and level 100, Im not sure what to tell you.
If that’s true my question would be, why? Why haven’t we been told that? Why is fishing the way it is in TWW?
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Only going to bother with fishing to get what I need for that red old god fish mount.
Pools encourage toxic behavior. Pools still work the same way they did since day 1 when other nodes became shared.
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Needing a bit of gear and skill ups isn’t the main issue, it’s the fact that you can spend thousands of gold on the fishing/cooking gear, then spend several hundred more on the required cooking recipes, then spend 2-3 hours chasing pools and skilling up your fishing, then spend another 20 minutes deciphering how to turn your myriad fishes into Buff Food, and the end result of all that is…
About a dozen “Buff your lowest Secondary Stat for 15 minutes” food items.
Just absolutely insulting results vs the time and money invested.
…I guess you wouldn’t know this, but it’s only the lower-skill foods that raise your lowest secondary stat. There’re at least as many that boost your highest secondary stat, and yes, foods that boost primary stats as well.
You also don’t need any profession gear at all. You can fish without a rod. Perception doesn’t help you catch fish, and pools don’t even require fishing skill. Hell, you don’t even need to train TWW fishing to catch fish from pools. The gold cost for fishing can be as low as actually zero. Of course, cooking equipment is completely optional as well.
None of what you said changes the fact that getting reasonable amounts of actually useful food reqires exponentially more effort post-DF than it did in the past.
I take no issue with that fact. I’m not talking about recently. Though, that junk you are getting in your screenshot will start to disappear as you level up.
I absolutely take your point that the profession seems at odds with itself. WoW is very much a mess atm with how disorganized and over the place these systems have become. I suppose the design intent is to simply take each expansion in a vacuum?
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This seems more of a complaint with cooking than fishing. But that does sound cumbersome, and I understand the professions are intrinsically linked.
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