Fire Mage tuning when?

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Hey blizzard are you gona look at Fire mage or wait 2 raid later again ?
The only reason i bought the expact was Fire + FrostFire spec…
And its bottom tier …
If not im not gona play at all cuz i know for a fact last expact you did nothing and gaslighted your player

Well season is starting and no meaningfull turning been done …
Meaning Blizzard wants Fire mage to perform as much as a trash bin
From my experience last expact its gona remain like this until next expact and beyond!
Im not gona get fooled again blizz im not renewing my sub

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try being a frost dk its been 10 years

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They don’t care that the game is fun, they only care that people are addicted to it. I have decided that the best course of action for me is to play only if I’m actually enjoying it and when I’m not, I just unsub for a while and wait to see if they allow mages to have fun later. I just resubbed after not playing since December and I’m on the fence about whether or not I want to stick around much.

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I’m playing with 2 friends, we’re all geared roughly the same, I sim 460k in AOE, they both sim over 800k. Fire is in a really sad state, which is a shame because it’s very fun to play but the damage just isn’t there.

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I mean fire mage have been in the god comp pretty much all of DF and SL? so maybe is time to take a back seat and let other mage spec to shrine.

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Frost DKs are probably the best DPS spec in the game right now and fire mages are probably the worst. Not a comparison I would be making in your shoes lol.

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Cross posting my thoughts here as this post is a little more relevant.

In heroic level gear my Pyroblasts are hitting for about the same damage as Phoenix Flames— around 300k DPS.

This is absurdly low. I made a post about why I think this is on here, and suggestions to fix it, but TL;DR, it’s mostly due to Ignite and Combustion having so much DPS impact in the spec.

Pyroblast and Flamestrike should be the golden boys of Fire spec, but everything takes a backseat to Ignite Mastery— and it really sucks not seeing big numbers on the screen from our actual active abilities.

I switched back to Frost after my extensive Fire Mage testing, and I wanted to add here that my Frost Mage Ice Lances are doing ~300k DPS. This, again, is the same as what my Pyroblast and Phoenix Flames are doing on Fire Mage.

This is absolutely egregious to see how far Pyroblast especially has fallen.

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No issues being the worst mage spec, but would like to play what I enjoy without doing tank damage…I don’t see why being overtuned for high keys in the prior expansion warrants some sort of punishment lol

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Being good at higher keys (higher than Blizz tunes for even) because of how well they pair with Aug Evoker is no reason to make the class feel like sh*t everywhere else. They needed to nerf Aug, not Fire and SPriest… And the “you’ve been good before” argument doesn’t hold water; every class/spec should be playable at any given time, that’s the point of balance.

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it is playable

unplayable - not capable of being played or suitable to be played or not playable

You can play fire mage yes? Does the spell work? yes Does your character move when you control it? yes.

Then it is playable.

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I would argue fighting the tank on single target damage isn’t playable. Sure, We can press the buttons, but there’s no way anyone’s taking a fire mage to a pug M+ group when their damage is that low. And I can’t blame them; when there is a timer on the dungeon they are a liability in their current state.

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Good news:

Mage changes coming on Tuesday.

Fire
    Living Bomb damage increased by 30%.
    Pyroblast damage increased by 5%.
    Flamestrike damage increased by 10%.
Frostfire
    Frostfire Bolt damage increased by 25% for Fire.
Sunfury
    Burden of Power can no longer be double dipped by spell queueing.
    Arcane Phoenix damage dealt reduced by 10% for Arcane.
    Arcane Soul base duration reduced to 2 seconds (was 3 seconds).
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Hopefully the tuning is accompanied by fixing frostfire bolt to work with talents, and these changes are just tuning and not including bug fixes

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They’re specifically listed as “tuning,” so I hope the bugs get squished.

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Yay, that gets us 10% of the way there

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thanks a lot for the head up
maybe there is hope !

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  1. 5% to Pyro - sure yes we needed it.
  2. 10% to Flamestrike? Good god. Decide what you want here. Everyone hates it because we have to @cursor during the MOST RIDICULOUSLY FRANTIC cooldown in the game. Please don’t make me Flamestrike if you really think Ele/Shadow deserve @target options more than we do.
  3. 30% to LB would hit harder had it not been reduced to uselessness in pre-patch. 1.3x nothing is still nothing. Can you fix all the bugs first? I still have 3 (or randomly 4) spheres for no reason. Still can’t even play Frostfire because of how messy it is, so I’m not sure who will notice the LB buff.
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Eh? Fire was dog (stuff) in DF except in high keys. They took a backseat to Arcane since the beginning of SL. Fire hasn’t been god tier since the last 2 tiers of BFA and even before then they were crap since the first week of Legion when they were nerfed to oblivion and didn’t recover until blaster master was implemented in BFA. Fire literally has 3 tiers in its history when it could be considered “god tier”. The last 2 tiers of BFA and maybe firelands cata. Other than that its been all arcane and/or frost. It was okay in SL and decent in DF except in high keys. and it was great for just 10days at the beginning of legion and then at the very end of legion when you had all your endgame gear it finally caught arcane when nobody G A S anymore.

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what was the god comp again in DF s2 s3 and s4? Oh right fire mage is always included what about SL ? Oh right a fire mage is always in it. Don’t believe me to watch the MDI from SL to DF all comp have a fire mage in in IT. Yup certainly not as Op as you say /s

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In like 20 and up keys ya they were gods (probably still are). raid and lower level M+ they were mid.