Wow Player since Burning Crusade
FFXIV since Heavensward
I have never seen a game go through the kind of issues with a launch like FFXIV is going through right now with Endwalker
Every single server they have is full. No option to transfer. Errors while queuing that will kick you out of it. The only time you can get in is during the workday or morning. Yoshi P is offering free game time but sadly it may not be enough. Still a great gesture.
What bothers me most is the community. They are so accepting of this saying things like āIM PERFECTLY OK WAITING 3 HOURS TO GET INTO THE GAME. Iām just so happy its good.ā I do believe there is such a thing as Toxic Positivity. This community is the epitome. Final Fantasy is the only game where you arenāt allowed to say anything bad about it in any circle where the community might see it.
WoW community can indeed be toxic but I can say iām proud of the community thatās left for not taking crap. This community has seen how good this game can be and refuses less than that standard within reason.
Are there any other FFXIV players here who havenāt been able to play at all? I am definitely going to let my sub lapse. I am not going to pay for a game I canāt play during the time I can play it.
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Wrong forums. But I heard the rumors, people choosing to wait 3 hours there over being a lab rat here.
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Why are you posting this still? Arenāt we beyond that?
You guild name fits perfectly.
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I simply wait until everyone goes to bed.
Toxic positivity is a scourge and an evil that must be cleansed. Down with the Canadians and the Minnesotans!
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When I was a kid, I liked to play tag. As an adult on the GD forums, I now like to play Flag.
Youāre it!
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Iām just imagining like, a midwesterner, or a chicagoan being like āThis entire city must be purged.ā
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WoWās community sucks for the most part, but Iāve read how some of the FF14 playerbase can be like and, ya itās hard to read lol
Maybe if both player bases merged together weād have balance 
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honestly endwalker is worth the wait times, really great
and yeah, you can just play offpeak and get almost no wait time
the deal is, you wait to get in but its good times
in wow there is no wait for a friction filled low loot timegated experience that chased away 85% of the playerbase
wow is killing itself
ff largely copies pre-borrowed power wow
ff community is definitely way less toxic cuz moderating and standards work, but part of it is less focus on pushing every single player into the hardest content with the maximum amount of friction - addons like recount arenāt even allowed (though some take the risk) and it really shows how that changes the social dynamic
wow is doubling, tripling, quadrupling down on the stuff that drives toxicity
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Letās flip the narrative on itās head.
The game is so good that people are willing to patiently wait for a chance to play it, like waiting for House of the Dead 3 in the arcade when you were a kid.
The only thing ātoxicā I see here is saying itās bad that people are so excited/enjoying an experience so much that they are willing to wait for it.
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I just play at non-peak. Being upset isnāt gonna make anything better because they canāt upgrade for a few months due to shortages. They had already upgraded and added a datacenter. The game is just more popular than before.
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All mmos have wonky launches with new expansions. Its a given. Not sure what the point of the post was other than you dont like ff?
In which case fine, I dont like it either but Iām not sure how trashing another game will make our current dumpster fire of one any better.
Weāre all gamers regardless of what game we play.
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I dont play or care about FF14 this is wow and wow forums are for wow related stuff.
Dont care what others are doing in another mmoā¦
This is like going to a game of DnD and complaining about chess players. Like what are you even doing?
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They also push converted the test servers temporarily while they overhaul their other equipment to allow for demand too.
Imagine bliz being pushed so hard to meet demand that the PTR realms had to be taken offline for live versions of the game.
Thatās still happening? Weird.
WoW once had that issue and Blizz eventually upgraded the servers to hold more people. Since then queue times are very rare to nonexistent. Youād think FF would have considered that by now. 
You know that other thread going around about why people are still playing this game (wow)? Because I have fun? If a game was fun enough that waiting around three hours did not tip the scales of the pros and cons, so be it, awesome.
WoW is on a decline, and Iām still having loads of fun. Even though the Guardian MT is going to give me a heart attack.
Iāve really been thinking about giving Final Fantasy a shot. Can you go around killing anyone you want? (world pvp)
To be honest, when I even peaked on the ff forums, gives off cult like attitudes with the positivity. Itās abnormal lol, but if someone is excited, enjoying something, Iām indifferent to be honest.
They have. Chip shortages have made it impossible to upgrade again for at least a few months.
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