I can’t be the only one that notices how different the community treats its members based on what kind of feedback they’re providing. I recently made A topic discussing some of the shortcomings of Final Fantasy 14 For the coming expansion In a FF 14 chat and I Was Just ripped to shreds and the difference is that in wow it’s perfectly fine to criticize this game nonstop endlessly and get lots of praise and upvotes for it meanwhile Meanwhile, in FF 14 Communities if you say anything bad at all, you are just the worst person on earth.
It’s an entirely different culture And thing is like Final Fantasy 14 really does have some shortcomings that Are deal Breakers to people and should be considered genuine feedback. But Final Fantasy 14 people get so angry it’s crazy. Thing is square Enix Really isn’t some kind of saint that they make it out to be and often times blizzard isn’t the worst either. The difference between the two games is why Final Fantasy 14 Is often considered better even though it’s not. I would almost say the FF 14 community is toxic positivity
I thought people would want to talk about something like this. It could also be because blizzard is an American company and is more open to criticism because of that.
people attach there lives to a brand and defend it to the death even though the soulless corperation dosnt really view them as anything more then a consumer/customer.
it happens here too. cant say to what amount it compares to ff because i never played it or engaged in the community but it does happen here too. blizzard bots. unpaid employees basically.
What? I was with you up until this. Square doesn’t care if you criticize their game. It’s Americans who are ripping you to shreds in that forum more than likely?
I meant by that statement that maybe being in America criticism would be heard more whereas complaints about a game in Japan probably fall on deaf ears
FFXIV and WOW have a lot of player overlap. But perhaps the differences you are seeing comes down to how the games are played. FFXIV is a more story-oriented game. And even their hardest group content is usually played by 8 people. This usually means that it’s easier to form close nit groups, and that is only after you sit through all that story content to begin with. FFXIV is also full of mini games that have nothing to do with combat but are more just for fun.
Wow on the other hand is more competitive and focuses more on gameplay. Wow pushes you to be the best you can be, and to surpass others around you. Always after that higher ilv so you can be just a little better.
This may seem like a minor thing, but these two different philosophies tend to create a different atmosphere in the communities that play them.
The only other thing I can think of is FF also incentivizes positivity and helpfulness in order to get rewarded commendations. For anyone who doesn’t play ff than commendations are given at the end of dungeons or raids to the person that the group considered the “most helpful”. Though I think this is just a minor piece to the puzzle.
If I had to sum up my thoughts, it is this.
FFXIV-incentivizes teamwork and fun above all else
Wow-incentivizes Competition and fun above all else
I’d rather stick with Toxic negativity at least there is always a truth on it be about the bearer or the accused. I can’t stand toxic positivity too fake and too girly.
I think a big part of FF14’s fanbase protecting it is the history of the game. It was relaunched after an initial failure. In response, Yoshi P made a public apology to the community. People saw this and immediately mythologized the game. There’s also the fact that FF14 has classic Blizzard energy, with their events and Yoshi P wearing costumes and what not, while current Blizzard has retirement home energy.
I do know that the communities are different. But, it’s not exactly fair to compare FF14 to Retail alone. Retail community doesn’t exist. Retail is a waste of space, and the people that play it treat it like a gambling addiction, where they just want to pull the arm on the slot machine and win so that they can finally stop playing. This issue doesn’t really exist in classic and SoD.
As an example, I often think about when Kentaro Miura passed away. In FF14 everyone in the game went to the cities and lined up to show respect. In Retail WoW… people didn’t do anything because they don’t care about anything. But! … this sort of thing might have happened in a WoW classic, SoD or Remix… because the people aren’t miserable, and their mindsets are completely different.
So what you’re saying it’s about the same as here? You could bring up 10 different issues with wow and people will pile up on you trying to defend whatever it is. I’m not defending ffxiv since I don’t even play it but people are people no matter where in the world you are.