Add your spell ranks and you’re good to go. I’ve been using this and it honestly works pretty well, especially if you’re like me and wanted to find a way to avoid casting maul every 3 seconds.
If your going to be using a one button macro you should be using extended macros to put in a long cast section to not renew ff as much, while should be using a mod key to turn on or off the aoe versions such as when holding alt aoe version with swipe bot holding alt st rotation: or better bind two diff buttons one for aoe one for st can place them on same key diff actions bar and swap the bar if you want same key.
As presented that macro dosebt work well it would work like trash wasting more than 25 percent of your actions. That’s worth thab button mashing and that’s being nice. It’s really wasting more than that when adding in wasted rage.
Also getting to 5 stacks of lac right away is important to your threat your macro makes it take a vary long time to get there making your already lower snap threat worse.
Sooooo this is why every time I see someone claiming how much it brings to the game to have complex PvE rotation i just roll my eyes because everyone finds a way to side step it with macro or bots.
TLDR games are the same be it a literal 1 button rotation or a 14 button ratation, only thing that really matters is did ya have fun or not.
Why would you want to use Faerie Fire (Feral) on CD? Are you assuming using the OoC Glyph or is there some benefit in using a global to refresh a debuff that isn’t even close to falling off?
In bear form it causes threat and a smidge of damage, and it’s rage-free, so if you have a spare GCD when mangle is on CD and may not want to spend the GCD on lacerate/swipe it’s not a bad cast in some cases even if it doesn’t need refresh.
That said, I still think your first observation that the macro is a bad idea is on point. There are plenty of cases where it’s not your best use of a GCD even if it’s up, or where you would want to save it for a specific purpose (e.g. chain pulling trash).
I’m not sure how much threat it causes, but I feel like I’d almost rather use Lacerate or Mangle instead in this case. I’d only really use Faerie Fire (Feral) when it doesn’t need to be refreshed if I was pooling rage and waiting for Mangle to come off CD, or had no rage…
FWIW, it doesn’t make sense to me to say, “Use FF on CD.” So, I’m trying to understand where that’s coming from…
I’d have to test it to give an actual number, but it’s actually decent single-target threat. You’re right that it’s almost always lower prio than mangle, but Mangle (bear) is a 6 sec CD, so you have quite a few GCDs to spend in between.
Lacerate is a good threat maintainer over time for mobs that will live a while (bosses, a few specific ICC elites), but it’s not great snap threat and not super useful on most trash packs unless you’re fishing for idol procs.
E.g. if you have to taunt because one mob is being focused while other dps are aoeing if Mangle is on CD, you want FFF (and maul obvs), not lacerate as your first GCD imo.
So I think you’re undervaluing it somewhat, but I agree that using it on CD just because you can isn’t something I would do - it’s not quite powerful enough for that general use, but relatively strong for some specific use scenarios.
It’s one of those spells you actually have to weigh it’s usefulness for that moment.
Of course. I’m more looking for clarification from this comment:
As I’d like to know if I’m missing something I was unaware of as to why this would make sense…
Sure… I was more thinking single target anyway… for multi-target, I’d most likely be using Swipe, and Mangle/Maul on mobs I might be losing threat on, while also using white-hits, which are also pretty valuable threat-wise.
I’m talking specifically about the statement:
and more specifically when you already have FF up, and don’t need to refresh it. So the assumption here is that you already have threat established.
This is how I’ve been prioritizing Faerie Fire,
and I’m curious as to why someone would say to use it on CD, because that makes me think that there’s some information that I may be missing…
In what way? I’m not saying that I don’t keep FF up more or less 100% of the time, I’m saying that I don’t use it on CD.
Well see, this is where I’m curious. Why “not quite” rather than just “not” powerful enough, and are there any situations where you’re going to prioritize refreshing FF on a target that’s within melee range when you could use something else instead, and it’s not close to falling off?
To your last question, sure, in a single target fight if mangle is on CD, and lacerate is full-stacked, in that specific scenario I’m using FFF pretty much on CD because it’s more valuable than swipe or burning GCDs on refreshing lacerate constantly.
Well, thinking (and Googling) “Just how valuable?” lead me to find this old blog post, so that’s cool!
Gist of it: “So for pretty much any numbers that you can think, faerie fire beats swipe, and it scales insanely well with AP. Also, if you don’t have things like master shapeshifter or even naturalist, faerie fire does even better by comparison.”
Numbers (actual math in referenced blog post):
DPS:
mangle: 2239 damage
swipe: 698
lacerate: 163
FFF: 803
That’s not the pally obm you can make it vastly better without even trying by having the slightest understanding of the class. Given the entire real pally rotation fits in a macro slot. You just lose adaptability. Yours outright dose the one thing you never do as a prot pally use hotr and sotr back to back.
That macro is less than half as effective as the one you should be using if using one but even than shouldent be.
yah so anyways i use it on 4.7k gs pala tank in gammas/for farming and it seems to be fine. (prot pally is a really easy class so you can actually just button mash, doesn’t matter, hope this helps)
Seams to work fine dosent really mean anything. You are literally using a macro to be lazy and not even bothering to spend the 30 secs it takes to pull up one of the already written and vastly better versions. It only shows you off as the kind of player you need to kick right away.
Using a macro to be lazy is fine, not even bothering to understand your class to the point that your not even able to see why that macro is so bad is not. As, as mentioned that macro is less than half the dps and threat of the well known and easy to find version that dose the prot rotation 100 percent correct (minus low hp swaping in hammer of wrath) The only issue with it is lack of adaptability.
Why would you not use a macro that is 100 percent correct to what your rotation can be and instead use a macro that is around 40 percent.
No you can’t jsut button mash. Doing so is jsut showing your bad. Yes pally is simple to play so you don’t need to button mash. Button mashing thou is quite punishing on a pally but given you can’t even see how bad your macro is really shows how little you know about the class and spec.
One button anything is just setting yourself up for suboptimal gameplay, guaranteed.
If you can’t be bothered to press a 4-5 key rotation, try a mobile game. Not an MMO.
Never wiping or losing agro is not a good benchmark esp when you are talking about gamma. You can be a brain dead monkey and not wipe in gammas and you don’t lose agro since the gamma buff makes it so you can keep agro by not pressing anything. Dosent change you are showing by yourself as dead weight that has no clue about your class and spec.