Feral druids have the most complex rotation in wotlk. That buff reduces the complexity making lower skill perform better. Please, sit there and talk about your 4 button rotation not erga derga’ing quite as much as a feral druid. Chances are you won’t come across many ferals that will be great at it and you will out dps them anyway. I recall beating fury’s as a ret is retail wotlk, are you worried about their change too?
How well does a combo point class recover from switching targets compared to a warrior. Warriors, paladins, and dks have passive cleave where feral does not. Fury has value in its ability to cleave and sunder where feral does not. You are looking at sims like it’s law. If you’re good at warrior you will be a high parser and more than likely a higher dps. If anything needs a buff it would be arms warriors
Let’s not forget that rogues not having to sunder improves their dps substantially where they can allocate their combo points elsewhere. This is not a warriors world. All the classes have to be able to perform in their rotation. So yes warrior sunder is an incredible utility to have, make ZERO mistake on that. Commanding shout doesn’t down bosses, you’re right. It can, however, determine if some live or die. Commanding shout synergizing with kings. They stack by effect not one or the other.
Blizz buffed an already OP class in Paladin, that’s the fact.
And it’s ridiculous they just go radio silence on the matter after doing it. It was a business decision pure and simple. Buff the two most represented classes to bring back the maximum number of players after drop-offs in subscriptions.
They’ll get far more drop-offs with this wishy-washy ‘balance’ talk when it’s obvious what the real motivation is.
Imagine being a fury warrior when you can play Feral…
Also SM Prio is Ret or Blood over Fury as raids just bring a Feral druid instead of a Fury warrior.
Warriors are hybrids
I know a lot of guilds who dont take ret because of lackluster damage.
I also know that arguing based on hearsay and based on your own very limited experience always tends to be better than arguing based on statistics (like participation numbers of specs on WCL, you cant trust those filthy corporate people!)
The other blessing you talk about ? What would that be, blessing of uniqueness ? Theres literally only Kings that is unique, in that it gives 2% more on basestats than the scrollkings does. Other than that, zero blessings are even required for a fullbuff setup.
Sac and Dsac are extremely strong up to the point of having 1 Sac and 2 Dsac in your raid, after that their value drops drastically.
The Hpal does not run into melee to apply judgements you utter tool. The Hpal runs into melee to get mana from autoattacking the boss with seal of wisdom up. A Hpal can judge from 30 yards, thats part of his talents…
I also know that arguing on a topic where you dont even have basic knowledge about is always the key to success…
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Hybrid is pretty specifically used to describe tri-role classes
Lolno it’s not, mr. hybrid
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Literally no one has ever called Warriors “hybrid” until you just now
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again, that’s just not true 
so…Warrior simmed higher than feral for 4 years straight where was u then?
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So because one spec of your class wasn’t doing as well as Warriors for the last few expansions Warriors as a whole class should be punished now?
Sound logic … /s
The thing that kills me is not that you are arguing against Warrior buffs but rather that you are arguing that Blizzard should actively intervene in the meta to ensure Warriors are kept low so that you can have some weird revenge fantasy on them because they beat you in the last few expansions …
This is the community Blizzard are listening to LOL.
Blizzard, if they want to intervene in class balance (as they have been), should focus on balance and ignore “the community”. Do it by numbers. With regards to balance, the community is hopelessly petty and biased.
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Sir this is Wrath not vanilla or tbc
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Prove it then
Warriors always had a tank and dps specs, IE hybrid, but your free to go look up the vanilla specs yourself.
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No but despite warriors thinking that it doesnt matter because it works against them the rest of the playerbase disagrees.
You dont get to be S tier forever
And the game doesn’t get to be balanced around you being bitter about being second rate for 2 iterations of the game either.
Wanting Blizzard to intervene in the meta because “da wawiar beat meh in Vanilla” is lame.
I’m pretty certain that if you surveyed most warrior players they’d prefer no classes or specs get any buffs or nerfs - including Warriors. Much like the whole player base as a whole - it’s almost like players of one class are much different to players of any other class…
Most people gave Ret a pass because they really were under performing and the buff wasn’t too big or meta changing. But generally I reckon most players were fine with Blizzard taking a “don’t touch balance” position - including Warrior players.
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Good think its not? Its being balance around what Blizzard wants.
Is what they want. And they nailed it. I just get the privileged of watching them shatter under the weight of being anything but the best melee dps in the game
Most gave ret a pass because when has ret ever been a dominant spec? Its the same that outside of the warrior community most arent saying much about ferals too
your trolling and invalid points dont really have a place here
blizzard said they intended to only make changes to a class so weak it wasnt viewed as a good class for raid
of the ferals/rets/warriors at the bottom of the meter, warriors bring the least utility, and are the least desirable, and the MOST QUALIFIED for buffs under the criteria blizzard set forth, but they havent been buffed yet
blizzard just buffed ferals 20%, pushing them up to basically being tied at #1 and they will scale to #1, with maybe some competition from fire mages down the line at most.
Yes, they made the class that has battle rez and innervate stackable
warriors 100% would be next to be buffed in a logical world. They have been scaling parallel to other classes and have the least utility of any class. Most higher end raids have 0-1. Beef bar (world 1st Ulduar) has a raid with a prot warrior in it and brings 0 dps warriors. Its a terrible class overall and the scaling is a myth. We have the sims. We have the 252 gear. Aggrend said warriors would be kings in Ulduar and he has been proven 100% wrong by warcraft logs.
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