Sir this is Wrath not vanilla or tbc
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Prove it then
Warriors always had a tank and dps specs, IE hybrid, but your free to go look up the vanilla specs yourself.
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No but despite warriors thinking that it doesnt matter because it works against them the rest of the playerbase disagrees.
You dont get to be S tier forever
And the game doesn’t get to be balanced around you being bitter about being second rate for 2 iterations of the game either.
Wanting Blizzard to intervene in the meta because “da wawiar beat meh in Vanilla” is lame.
I’m pretty certain that if you surveyed most warrior players they’d prefer no classes or specs get any buffs or nerfs - including Warriors. Much like the whole player base as a whole - it’s almost like players of one class are much different to players of any other class…
Most people gave Ret a pass because they really were under performing and the buff wasn’t too big or meta changing. But generally I reckon most players were fine with Blizzard taking a “don’t touch balance” position - including Warrior players.
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Good think its not? Its being balance around what Blizzard wants.
Is what they want. And they nailed it. I just get the privileged of watching them shatter under the weight of being anything but the best melee dps in the game
Most gave ret a pass because when has ret ever been a dominant spec? Its the same that outside of the warrior community most arent saying much about ferals too
your trolling and invalid points dont really have a place here
blizzard said they intended to only make changes to a class so weak it wasnt viewed as a good class for raid
of the ferals/rets/warriors at the bottom of the meter, warriors bring the least utility, and are the least desirable, and the MOST QUALIFIED for buffs under the criteria blizzard set forth, but they havent been buffed yet
blizzard just buffed ferals 20%, pushing them up to basically being tied at #1 and they will scale to #1, with maybe some competition from fire mages down the line at most.
Yes, they made the class that has battle rez and innervate stackable
warriors 100% would be next to be buffed in a logical world. They have been scaling parallel to other classes and have the least utility of any class. Most higher end raids have 0-1. Beef bar (world 1st Ulduar) has a raid with a prot warrior in it and brings 0 dps warriors. Its a terrible class overall and the scaling is a myth. We have the sims. We have the 252 gear. Aggrend said warriors would be kings in Ulduar and he has been proven 100% wrong by warcraft logs.
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Where? Because if they did it was quickly updated with
They said they specifically DID NOT want to provide balance changes
If so, most players should be angry at Blizzard for not buffing them hard enough. As Ret still aren’t dominant lol.
Nah you’re bitterness about the meta of a different game (vanilla and TBC) isn’t a factor for most players I’d wager (that’s a you issue) - many of which didn’t even play Vanilla or TBC.
It’s not the job of the devs to wipe your salty tears.
If you look at WCL the majority of players with WOTLK parses don’t have parses recorded on that character for both Vanilla and TBC. This suggests to me that a lot of current WOTLKC raiding player base either:
- Didn’t play TBC and Vanilla Classic
- Played different classes in Vanilla and TBC
Or some mix of the two.
Therefore, your entire proposition that Blizzard should shape the WoTLKC meta to ensure “other specs get a go” is a non sequitur. The last two iterations of Classic are irrelevant to this one. Your whole position is just your own saltiness and should be ignored.
Id be ok with ret getting a big buff. Blizzard said they werent going to so im assuming thats not whats going to happen. But if they did Id welcome it for them since like I said they never get any time on top.
Agreed
one of the lead devs in an interview at the start of wotlk
Kris Zierhut
then what is the cr ap with arbitrarily buffing rets 10% and ferals 20%? two very high utility specs?
your point is illogical in the face of the facts
if sims and evidence showed warriors scaling way better than anyone it would make sense to hold off and not give them the feral treatment, but Aggrend said at 252 warriors would be kings but instead theyre still at the bottom. We have sims to compare to as well and the scaling thing is a myth. Warriors scale in parallel to others. Assassination got more out of Ulduar than Fury did lmao. If warriors scaled like this from 213 to 240, there is no miracle from 240 to 260 that will change much. And the sims confirm it. Even worse, sims show feral scales super well and theyll only get more broken with time…
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Well they explained it actually
Ret was because they had no other DPS alternatives so they wanted to bump them to stay competitive while also having them remain on the bottom.
Feral was to combat a degenerative playstyle. If you have an issue with this then Id argue its all the more reason to touch nothing else.
You’re welcome
Also before you go off on the whole " tHe fLoOdgAtz R oPeN" stance
They’re aware of you. They don’t care. Munching fix is all warriors should get
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You forgot to drop the mic.
I don’t disagree - it’s you’re reasoning that stinks.
Even a broken clock can be correct twice a day…
Never buff warriors.
I was going to say - I reckon Drinknblink would even oppose fixing munching for Warriors - only fix ignite lol.
You’re sort of the poster child for salt. Which I still find hysterical given you play a class that was OP in every facet of the game during Vanilla and was arguably as obnoxious as the Warrior player base at the time. I mean - a mage player salty about Warriors in Vanilla! ROFL - you can’t make this stuff up!
Fury Warriors don’t have a competitive DPS alternative either.
Fury Warriors have a “degenerative” playstyle too.
I’m not saying they should but what makes you so certain that Blizzard won’t apply the same logic to Warriors?
And don’t say “because they said so” - they said a lot of things they’ve since gone back on.
I’m not salty.
Munching should be fixed for all classes.
I just love the fact you’re all so upset about warrior DPS, buffing them would ruin that.
I’m not really. Apart from fixing munching and maybe looking at sunder stacking I’m pretty cool with where Fury is at.
What style is that? Are they out there flowerweaving/clamweaving/bearweaving/chugging troll blood elixirs?
Because they told you?