Firelands isn’t live yet. The data-set doesn’t have enough data making it irrelevant for drawing conclusions.
P2 has been live for like, 2 weeks. That’s nowhere near enough samples to prove anything, especially given everything is identical to P1 which has an infinitely larger data set.
lol ZA/ZG gear has nothing to do with P1 raids this is the current standings
Oh right, they made ZG/ZA its own phase because they’re stupid. My bad actually.
we can agree on ZA/ZG not being a real phase honestly blizz should have released Firelands when they released ZA/ZG and released ZA/ZG 6 weeks after P1 and called it a 1/2 phase
They could’ve not called it anything. And nobody would’ve cared lol. Calling it a phase only pissed people off.
yeah and the streamers went along with it and WoWhead did to and so WCL the only people who agree with it being a phase are kids who cant have there own opion they chase the streamers and agree with what they say.
20 weeks of P1 is absurd!!!
On topic, between P1 → P2 every class just gained roughly 1k dps except somehow Sub rogues found an extra 1k, maybe some hidden tech, maybe daggers, maybe skill checked? BM hunters maybe figured out how to micro their pets for an extra 100 dps to pass feral. It’s really not as bad as you make it out to be man. The gap to the top is the same as it was in P1 which, I wouldn’t call 5k to the next “balanced” class a huge gap. (I will never call cata fire mage balanced you cannot make me or convince me that thing ever should’ve went live.)
If you count the extra DPS from the windfury procs they are #1
Fire mage is broken theyre gonna be even more broken come Firelands when they all get staffs and are hitting with insta double pyros and combust ticks
Read the 4.3 patch notes. Someone approved those buffs to fire mage. Someone thought they were reasonable.
lol did you see the ele shamans crying about there Tier 12 being trash and wanting the OG set bonuses back as there spec isnt brain dead
Yeah, and they made 2 or 3 treads. You’ve made 5 threads on this topic. Like, you alone have made that many. Stop.
I’m trying to highlight a crucial issue that developers keep overlooking: Feral Druids desperately need a buff. At the very least, we should be middle of the pack in terms of damage, not stuck at #20 out of 22, especially when we’re ranked #16 in played class/specs.
There will always be Feral druid haters, don’t worry about the haters, never back down. They can make up in their head you’re creating multiple posts when it’s clear they’re from different people, what a surprise, people back in wrath complained and voiced their opinion about ferals in abundance back in wrath forums, history is literally repeating itself.
It’s frustrating that PvP specs like Subtlety Rogues, which have no place in PvE content, are out DPSing Feral Druids. And don’t even get me started on Blood DK tanks out DPSing Ferals in the 99th percentile bracket. How is that acceptable?
Four Feral druids in the top 10 for 3v3 Arena.
“PvE spec.”
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So what’s the other druid melee DPS spec that is the pve spec?
Feral Druids boast four distinct roles they can adopt:
- Tanking as a Bear
- DPS in Cat form
- Healing as a Tree
- Casting as a Boomkin
Each role has a distinct playstyle and needs to be viable for PvP to some extent, while also remaining competitive in PvE.
The fact that one specialization excels in PvP does not necessarily mean it is the Druid’s PvP specialization.
While classes like mages typically play frost and rogues play subtlety in PvP, warriors opt for arms. Similarly, shamans, like druids, have three specs that must be viable for both PvE and PvP.
Why is it deemed acceptable for Death Knights to attain S-tier DPS status in both PvE and PvP, whereas Feral Druids, despite reaching S-tier in PvP, struggle to achieve at least B-tier in PvE?
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Now, wait a moment. Why is it acceptable for Death Knights to be S tier in Season 8 (PvP) and ICC, and then again in both Season 9 and Phase 1? It seems a bit hypocritical here, don’t you think? The attitude of ‘only my class can be better and you can’t’ seems somewhat childish as well.
Continuously repeating a lie doesn’t make it more true.
Are you trying to argue that Druids do not have a PvP spec but other classes do?
Endlessly whining about your PvE viable spec on the forums is childish. I don’t even play the “OP” way to play a DK. I’m playing Blood DPS in PvE (there’s like 5 of us in the world doing it) and I haven’t PvP’d in 2 months but I was playing Blood in Arena too.
I purposefully play things that are considered bad or nonviable. I played Blood DPS from beginning to end in WoTLK Classic too.
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When you say stuff like this it kinda shows you dont know what youre talking about.
It kind of throws your whole argument out the window.