Yea and its not good enough. Old blizzard would have been fine getting away with a “its not a bug” list post. But unfortunately modern lizzard already pulled “its not a bug things” from the “its not a bug list”… so you know how much people rely on that kind of info.
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…why make any official response if the people seeking clarification have declared the official source (Blizzard) untrustworthy?
Again, why? You don’t trust them so why should they bother walking through the logic of their decision when at the end of all of it you can just say “well I don’t believe you…”
You’re right. You have to expect some level of honesty from Blizzard for them to give two craps about convincing you of anything.
See above. You’re demanding action from Blizzard on the basis you don’t have faith in their ability to manage this game, and the action you demand directly relates to their ability to manage this game.
You’re doing the equivalent of people who demand justice from the justice system, but if the verdict isn’t to your liking then the justice system is broken. That’s bad thinking, stop it.
He was hired as Lead Systems Designer a month before Sunwell even released…
Man fasc, looks like your a real troll. You ignore basic facts, take half truths, and twist people’s words and apply them to logic that they were never supposed to be applied to. But hey, that’s just the world we live in. You can’t fix all the idiots and trolls in the world and a person would go mad trying.
A blizzard blue post on this topic would be nice. Blizzard can apply any one of dozens of different logic and reasoning to either keep it or change it. I’m just curious which piece of logic/reasoning they choose. (Before a troll comes in here and quotes this and says they’ve already decided, I should point out that I don’t believe they have yet. The last we have heard is they are keeping an eye on the situation) It might be too early but an update would be nice 
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You, and others, are always quick to trot this stuff out but you never substantiate it.
- Which facts are ignored? State them clearly.
- What truth am I leaving out? What truth am I including?
- “Twisting words” can mean I’m actually changing the meaning maliciously, or it can mean I’m taking their reasoning to its logical conclusion and you just don’t like it… so which is it?
Sure, but why bother when you have so many posters who already think the modern Blizzard is inept, deceitful, and doesn’t have Classic players’ best interests at heart? So many of you are convinced Blizzard is already in the wrong, and if they give an explanation that doesn’t yield the RESULT you want, you’ll just declare them wrong anyway.
This is the problem. Rather than present a problem and then see what Blizzard does, people choose to interpret what they want, how they want, to satisfy their personal narrative.
- If Blizzard doesn’t respond immediately, suddenly Blizzard is “ignoring valued customers” and Blizzard is wrong for that.
- If Blizzard reiterates that the Energy reset is intended and staying for good, but makes no explicit mention of Patch 2.2, Blizzard will be accused of “ignoring the real problem” and Blizzard is wrong for that.
- If Blizzard does address Patch 2.2 and says they’re good with that change so they’re keeping it, Blizzard will be accused of “being too lazy to correct an obvious bug” and Blizzard is wrong for that.
- Etc.
You, and others, don’t actually care what Blizzard has to say, you’ve made that abundantly clear in the many posts across the many threads here. The RESULT is not to everyone’s liking, reasoning be damned, which is why people are mostly arguing for buffs in the name of fun or raw output.
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Mate are you that naive? If you get any information, and i think children learn this in school at an early age, it is encouraged to question said information and not take it for face value, unless there is a reasonable explanation or science attached to it… What Lizzard does is put out a statement without anything else and says: Yea its like that… period…on a rengineered client and everyone is supposed to eat it up, despite having retrackted some of that information already after “further testing” already. Combine this with the fact that the client and the game is currently absolutely bugged in various ways the implication is here that this was a rush job, to bring it out ASAP… most likely because of fiscal reasons. Either way, how can you not see that players might not believe everything they say, especially when there is no reason or rhyme behind it. If they atleast come out and adress it players can re-evaluate their “its not a bug” thing.
I also wanna point out, that I am not the guy to convince alone, but there is multiple people that obivously do not trust their “its not a bug” list either, far less cynical than me
U still do not understand anything do you?
Sunwell is patch 2.4, how does this even remotely help your argument?
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No, but I’m not juvenile enough to think that abject skepticism is a healthy approach, particularly when the authority you’re trying to elicit a response from IS THE UNQUESTIONABLE FINAL SAY ON THE MATTER.
There’s no appeal process here, there’s no Supreme Court of Video Game Design we can present a case to compel Blizzard to do anything. There are no laws of design or statutes regulating how much or how little customers are listened to and responded to.
If Blizzard says that Warriors are supposed to be 15% more DPS than any other Class and takes efforts to approach, meet, or even exceed that value, there’s not a thing we can do about it. They don’t even have to give good reasons, because you and I signed away any method of compelling good reasons. You and I can only vote with our wallets.
So why on Earth would you declare yourself skeptical of an entity that has the 100% totalitarian control over the state of this game, and then demand an explanation to your satisfaction from that very same entity?
That’s irrelevant, none of us are on any kind of useful bargaining position for it to matter. Blizzard doesn’t have to convince any of you of anything, least of all when you have “I don’t believe you!!” at the ready.
I understand that you have zero idea what kind of position you are in relative to Blizzard as you make ridiculous declarations.
Your claim was that he had no input or control over TBC, when in fact he did.
Your claim was that GC’s presence at Blizzard is irrelevant to TBC because you believe he had no hand in TBC, which is false.
TBC entered its most finalized and polished state in 2.4 (the patch TBCC reflects), under the guidance of GC and other Devs. Even if you want to just exclusively place the dislike for powershifting on GC’s head alone, as the Lead Systems Designer he has that right to guide the game systems towards his vision for the game, which he clearly did.
This is why GC’s opinion of things like powershifting matter, as they signal BLIZZARD’S opinion of things like powershifting, either because GC pulled them in that direction, or because already-present Devs shared that idea, or both.
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I have pointed out at least 4 times where you directly lied in you post about what i said. And that is just 4 that i pointed out lol.
Actually scrap that. It is 5 now since you clearly lied about not lying and twisting other words and i pointed it out.
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Why are you comparing this company to the judical system of america? Dude what?
You write down this drivel and yet you are somewhat still arguing for their side. I know it is their final say. I know they can just nerf anything they want to the ground, and yet I do not understand your reasoning, on why you would defend their silence, here. What are the ferals supposed to do then? Not make posts? Not link every shred of evidence they can find to show em how wrong they are? Cause its the final authority and nothing matters anyway? Great logic. Why don’t you compare it a little more with the judical system, so it makes sense eventually.
Keep shilling I guess.
Nah you don’t get it at all.
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No, you’ve pointed out arguments and statements I haven’t made, attributed them to me, and called those lies.
Very different.
/facepalm
You can’t be this dense to miss the analogy.
Blizzard is the sole master of how their game works and doesn’t work, with or without explaining a writ of information to you, the licensee. If you declare Blizzard untrustworthy to explain something about their game, WHY ARE YOU DEMANDING ANY ANSWER AT ALL?
It isn’t even a defense, it is a statement of reality. In the face of that reality, while you post repeatedly that Blizzard isn’t to be trusted, you NONSENSICALLY DEMAND ATTENTION FROM THEM NEVERTHELESS.
“I know that Blizzard can do whatever they want and I know that Blizzard isn’t to be trusted but I want them to answer my concerns anyway because REASONS!!”
This is asinine.
This right here is the conceit of an entitled child. Every scrap of evidence to show Blizzard is wrong MEANS NOTHING in the face of the fact that Blizzard can say “That sounds really interesting but we’re doing this thing over here instead.” You might as well scream at the ocean to stop being wet, because Blizzard gets the ultimate say as to what their product is and isn’t, which means they cannot be wrong with what their product is or isn’t, even if they change their minds.
That’s how having 100% control works. You can write a 10pg essay with accompanying exhibits to lay out the perfect case against Blizzard and they can… ignore it and do what they want. That’s just a waste of effort. But you guys don’t stop there, you add heaping helpings of victimization and “woe is me” hysterics as if Blizzard is betraying some duty to loyal licensees like yourself.
It was fruitless to try to twist Blizzard’s arm with facts and logic, so why on Earth would you think adding emotional nonsense would help more? Why brigade these forums with incessant spam demanding attention from a company you already dislike for a problem they don’t have to fix or even address?
Will you feel empowered if Blizzard posts, says Feral energy is going to change, and then nukes the trollsblood bug from orbit? Will that please you? Or do you just want to make noise for the sake of making noise because you have nothing else you can do?
I couldn’t care less what Blizzard does, but not joining your cry-campaign doesn’t make me lick Blizzard boots, it makes me someone on the sideline watching this train wreck while I eat popcorn.
I get it plenty, you just don’t like being called out on it.
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feral druids love to argue more than any other spec/class. I’ve always wondered why.
We don’t hang out in the same bars like other classes.
So can someone just explain what the “correct” rotation is now? Because I’m noticing my rune of meta is not doing jack all for me and even with it and natural shapeshifter im OOM after a few shifts. Should we just do normal dps rotation?
Feral DPS is a dead spec now. BADLY needs fixes to energy ticks and needs to just go back to the power shifting rotation. NO MCP. NO CHEESY TROLLS BLOOD POTS.
Powershifting is fun. I didn’t even care that I would keep a level 40 blue helm past 70. It’s a fun and dynamic playstyle that many people enjoy.
Somehow, some way, Blizzard made Feral even worse than in Classic.
no the analogy is stupid is what im saying
ye it is, you shill for em in every thread.
lmao… yea we want the version of the game we played 15 years ago to work properly, and we pay 15 bucks a month in return. What entitlement? Dude you are off lol
Nah you really don’t. But keep bringing in the justice system as a comparison.
I’m a bad cat so take this with a grain of salt.
My new rotation has been mangle until 5 CP and then rip. shift if you’re below 20 energy. shred on ooc. lol
so yeah, lots of mangle. not sure what the theorycraft says, but that’s been working the best for me in 5 mans
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Thanks. I’m mostly tanking but on the off chance I dps I’ve been trying to do the classic rotation and it’s just not working. I’m sad my rune doesn’t work anymore.
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So you don’t understand why it is fruitless to try to convince Blizzard to do something when you have zero bargaining power or authorities to rely upon? That’s pitiful.
I’m sorry you have no answer other than this non sequitur but like I said above: pitiful.
The entitlement that you signed a legally binding contract that says you get what you get and now you’re here whining about that very situation.
You AGREED that Blizzard is only giving you access to their product, a product they can change at any time, for any reason, and which they can deny you access for any reason, or no reason at all. You EXPLICITLY agreed to these terms, and now want to renig on your agreement.
That’s the very definition of entitlement.
Fasc:
Blizzard didn’t address it directly, so Beastfury erroneously believes it must be a bug that needs addressing now. Since the logical chain is broken (you can’t imply a “must” from an open ended negation)
My response to you:
Your pathetic attempts to put words in my mouth are getting just sad
I have never in any of my posts said/typed or even implied that it must be a bug that needs addressing now. I no i don’t mean literally, i mean even in anything resembling this general idea.
So yes you very much twist words and outright lie (like in this case). Trying to deny something that exists in this tread and can be easily verified is next level of delusions? Ignorance? Stupidity? I am not really sure which maybe something else.
Then again you don’t really waste time on providing any proof of your statements, i guess it is beneath you. If you said it must be true and how dare we are to question it.
Oh?
Moving on.
Do i really need to explain to you the difference between:
“It is a bug” and can we consider adding it to #somechanges?
and
“It is a bug that needs addressing now”?
Lol
P.S. i guess you right it does need to be explained to YOU, otherwise you just don’t get it.