Is it possible to ever get into a dungeon or raid group as one, even in TBC? I find healing and tanking to be unfun unless I am in a mood for one of the two and I don’t like the long cast times of boomy (which I hear is going to be wanted in a raid for for tbc).
Feral DPS gets better in TBC but it doesn’t really shine until Wrath.
in bc if you’re a feral OT you’ll probably be asked to DPS on certain fights that don’t need you. If you’re MTing though you’ll probably just be tanking
From what I’ve read, seen and heard from forums, reddit and youtube videos, feral druids do more respectable dps than their vanilla version. They will not top meters against competent dps but they can hold their own and once they start getting armor pen gear they can be upper middle of the pack.
I’m not a big cat guy, but I see them in raid logs. They’re nothing like a fury warrior or mage, but it’s not so bad. They seem to beat the other meme specs. If all fights were like Vael we’d be pretty good lol.
5 man they do alright. Biggest drawback is there is a lack of any real AOE/cleave specific to the spec.
TBC they do better but I wouldn’t count on getting into a raid as a monocat. You’ll likely be an OT who gets to DPS when not tanking. I could be wrong, but I think cats are typically behind shaman DPS but kind of in there with the warriors and stuff in earlier tiers. The beauty is that our tank and dps specs are almost interchangeable. Ferals are probably the best at being able to swap between tanking and DPS’ing on the fly. Warriors lose a lot of that flexibility in TBC.
All in all, TBC is pretty nice for ferals and we’ll have better DPS than we do now. Also, no more stupid MCP farm when you hit 70.
Enhancement shamans out perform cat dps at first is what I am seeing from those “which spec/class to play” youtube videos. I’m aspiring to be a badass bear in TBC. I’ve been working at it for classic but AQ40 has been stingy with feral gear the past 2 months and same with BWL.
The big thing about feral is going to be the utility to off tank adds or bosses as second or third tank in many cases. As a off tank youll do more than the other classes overall since you CAN be cat DPS and it all kidna work out.
That being said if your goal is to pure cat, they are still needed for crit but melee dps overall is kinda of lack luster.
From what I’ve seen from youtube videos, reddit posts and other forums discussing all of the classes and their performance in TBC, cat druids aren’t that bad. They out perform boomkins and elemental shamans from T5 to the end of TBC but are kinda weak at the start.
I would think its going to depend on how your raid pans out. If you are the only DPS druid you are going to have more to do with FF and Mangle than say if your the 3rd or even 4th druid in the raid you can focus on DPS but there are a lot of important buffs for just 2 druids and the healing druid is prob not going to be making sure FF and Mangle are up.
On top of that it may also vary by what patch we start with. So while druid Car is decent and better than other melee early on, there is plenty that would bring it down too.
Does it shine in Wrath?
Feral has been my absolute favorite for Arenas, but it’s incredibly difficult for raiding (single target) compared to other classes, even when it does perform very well, and sub-optimal for sustained AoE mostly (trash, 5-man instances). In Retail, I don’t think there’s ever a time when Feral is desirable over a WW Monk or a Rogue, and to be fair, that’s also likely true with Arena 3s teams.
Feral becomes a DPS chart topper in Wrath, if you can master john madden.
Do you have some better info? What talent build? What rotation? What patch level? For how long? What types of fights?
During Legion, Feral was also quite good, but it’s an incredibly difficult spec to play at its highest potential.
It was the last spec to still have snapshotting, and requires perfection to be competitive.
I linked the rotation 
which really isn’t a rotation it’s a priority system heavily influenced by RNG.
And it was for the entire expansion and into Cata and basically any fight that just didn’t massively favor ranged due to excessive movement.
That’s true about every rotation in WoW, ever really, isn’t it?
What was?
You seem to have ignored the vast majority of my post to reply to the one part about rotation, with a joke post.
The post you made about feral rotation priority has nothing really to do with RNG. I suspect it’s somewhat tongue in cheek, but haven’t mained feral in TBC nor Wrath.
Melee dps in general is not great in tbc.
I’ve never had any issues with bringing a feral DPS into a dungeon group, whenever I’ve organized dungeons groups.
Not really no, and feral took it to the extreme.
I guess if you don’t understand how combo points and omen of clarity procs work and that 3 of the abilities use combo points no RNG has nothing to do with it.
Clearly i meant raiding. Obviously you’re fine in dungeons
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Would you care to elaborate?
In BC? That’s interesting. I’d love to understand how/why.
I’ve played several classes. I’ve mained druid for a handful of expacs, but only mained feral for WoD and Legion.
Ah… Omen of Clarity. Can you point to where that’s mentioned in:
http://azeroth.metblogs.com/files/2009/10/catdps.jpg
Because I must have missed it.
I do understand how combo points work (that’s not particularly difficult, and you could always just read the tooltip if you didn’t know otherwise, which you wouldn’t).
Yeah, sorry I didn’t mean to be pedantic! Just wanted to point it out for the OP. Feral’s fine (even good!) for dungeons, but a pretty tough DPS role to fill for raids, that will at best perform below Warriors, Rogues, and Mages who aren’t trying at all.