Great change.
This is why the alliance are so pissed. We don’t care that yall can zugg zugg each other in bg’s. Good for yall on the que times. It’s all the alliance jumping ship because now their is no reason to stay alliance. All the pvp servers gonna go 90/10. Trying to do anything open world gonna be impossible. Army vs. 1 seem fair.
Love this change, made battlegrounds so much fun again!
Maybe premade v premade though?
its not even the 90/10 split in the world PvP aspect that is the problem. Most Alliance PvPers I encounter thrive off of the underdog aspect of it. Its the lack of player base to do anything else… Being on a PvP server doesn’t mean you do nothing but PvP. In the past few weeks my server has gone from 60/40 H/A to nearly 90/10 and still dwindling. You cant do anything but Queue for BGs at this point.
Well, it’s actually benefiting horde, they are now farming BGS faster than ever and getting incredibly fast wins, as long as you’re a premade. I’m the minority, like you are, and plenty of alliance are complaining about the premades too; in itself it’s another issue that has spawned from the current, merely giving feedback in hopes for a more balanced approach, that would be beneficial to most.
Then again, you view on it won’t ever help anything either.
Yup, trying to farm/quest is impossible. PVP servers should only be able to max 60/40 with que times for the faction at 60+. Balance was important for PVP servers and they just didn’t care to even try. But hey Horde just cried enough to get good que times and literally erase the Alliance without even having to pvp to do it…
I agree, I think that same faction BG queues should have been a last stitch effort, if anything. We completely jumped over the faction imbalance and taking any steps to encourage a healthier population.
It seems to me that the underlying issue that created the long queues was faction imbalance. This “fix” of allowing Horde vs Horde BGs doesn’t seem to do anything to address that.
I’d much prefer to see more incentives to play Alliance added in order to balance out the factions more, as opposed to just sidestepping the issue like Horde vs Horde BGs do.
I think there are better solutions, but recognize that this change doesn’t have to be permanent if implemented. Horde waiting for an hour was ridiculous.
Please please please correct the Season 1 honor gains though. Obtaining gear wasn’t this bad in tbc. I’d like to play arenas on my alts.
Thank you for finally being pro-active for the Classic community. Without this change I was probably just going to raid-log for the next 2 years. Now please address all the flying bots in Slave Pens.
So far, still going, 95% of games are horde vs horde, and when I’m on the horde side, it is a convincing win 100% of the time, like 10 games running, and a convincing loss when playing the alliance side, 8 games running. 10-0 as horde horde and 0-8 as alliance horde. Interesting numbers. Also, I’ve faced many premades as an alliance horde, and 0 premades as horde horde.
Lol @ blizz just flat out deleting any post opposed to the policy.
Guess that is a way to shape the narrative.
Terrible change that does not for the ACTUAL problem which is imbalanced factions and OP horde racials. But I guess fixing those would take actual thought and effort which is why the lazy dev team with all horde mains won’t bother.
Please open up faction switch to shop!
5 man max party size would make bgs more enjoyable for everyone. No more premades stomping everyone.
I appreciate the change! I was so confused at first, starting as Alliance, as I had not been on these forums in at least a week at didn’t know about the change. I knew something was up, with the one minute queue time tho.
As someone else pointed out, it seems like I lose a lot when playing as Alliance Horde, against the Horde side. Also, AV still seems to be a long queue, so don’t know if it is working for that BG. Thanks!
Please make same-faction battlegrounds optional. Since it seems to favor pre-mades for the original faction, I’m pretty much getting 100% rounds filling as Alliance vs Horde pre-mades. I chose a Horde toon so I could fight for the Horde, not fight for the Alliance in a silly mask. I’d personally rather have longer queue times than this. Those who are okay with it can keep getting instant queues.
This change has been pretty much toxic for the casual pvpers, Toxic in a way of facing non stop premade after premade consistently. Please make premades go against other premades. Otherwise this change just killed pvp from a casual stand point. I’m not talking about one every few matches or 1 a day its literally back to back. As a alliance player we were losing enough already now with premades running wild its killed my will to play.
TL:DR Its not fun getting steam rolled by premades every match. Since you’re making changes please fine tune them so people that queue solo or in small groups under 3 don’t have to face off against a premade. This change is good if that gets fixed.
Its just premade after premade, cant solo queue anymore.
Use the rated BG queue system for premades and cap PUGS at groups of 5 max.
Add deserter for leaving queue so people can’t get around the premade system by coordinating/timing queues on discord.
Overall I think it’s a pretty bad idea. Queues are shorter, and now the premade meta is back and stronger than ever. Now that horde can premade easily, they are, and not all of us enjoyed that part of the game. By having more horde premades, alliance is forced to premade even more than they were. So it starts to become that I only face premades, and this was not what I was experiencing before the change. I would take longer queues and more fun PvP than premade heaven and the loss of immersion. I suspect many of those really for the changes premade.